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hikaru004
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Actually, we won't know a thing about this title until it airs or is released to DVD. In the worst case scenario, this title could suck majorly. |
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hara
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I have to agree with Lackshmana most. While BONES does have high production values their shows have many weakpoints considering plot and originality.
Their latest shows where extremely weak at the plot and character aspect. Although this is another matter of preference I would nevertheless say that Darker than Black had the most boring protagonists I've seen and Ayakashi Ayashi was just bland the whole time. Eureka 7's episodes differend very much considering quality and originality (c'mon, the first third of the show was something that's considered "filler episodes" in adaptions). The strongest parts of Eureka 7 were rip-offs from Evangelion xD The only very good BONES shows imo are Kurau and RahXephon (although that one contains lots of references to other non-BONES-productions). It would be great if BONES could return to the glory of those days again. But maybe they don't need to, because people go crazy about just having a show the brand "BONES" in the opening video xD Again, this is just my honest opinion. I don't want to tell you what you have to prefer. |
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Leebo
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I'm not sure if you're misunderstanding the quoted comment or just misrepresenting it, but there most definitely are correlations to be made regarding long-term, sustained success and quality performance versus one-time or short-term success. No one is saying the anime that hikaru004 mentioned were poor anime, or that they didn't measure against Bones' anime. The point Westlo was making had to do with his perception of long-term quality versus a bunch of different studios putting out one or two anime over that period that were better. Anyway... yes, sports franchises are often measured solely by the number of championships won. For many professional teams, a season without a championship is indeed a failure, regardless of their performance relative to teams that did worse. But that aspect of it doesn't relate to anime. The relevant portion relates to sustaining success. |
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Kaioshin_Sama
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Bones is a lot like Sunrise though in how they go about doing their series. They are a spinoff studio from them after all so it's fairly easy to confuse them. Though I think the notion that they appeal only to otaku isn't quite true. I haven't seen Freedom, but that looks more like an artsy series then an otaku pandering one and while series like Fullmetal Alchemist do have a certain Otaku appeal they also reach an older audience too with some of their themes and the way the characters are handled. I think all studios appeal to Otaku in one way or another, they kind of have to, but like you say often times it's in a neglible way. Still if there's any studio that makes anime mainly for otaku that is visually oriented then I think it's Kyoto Animation that fits that statement more than Bones, Gainax or Sunrise. They basically follow that business plan to a T and jack up the moe to the point where you can tell who the target audience is pretty much right off the bat. Although technically their series don't qualify as original productions so I'm not sure they fit into this discussion very well. |
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Keonyn
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Hardly. What you call filler I consider character development and more subtle storytelling. Eureka Seven is a character driven piece, and those earlier episodes that developed the cast and the growing relationships were key to making that work. I think the problem with E7 is that so many see mecha and assume they're going to watch 25 minutes of robots fighting and things exploding while having a basic plot spoonfed to them episode after episode until its done. For having mecha in it, E7 was really barely a mecha series. I would say the mecha aspect was more of a backdrop. So it doesn't work for you, so what? That doesn't make it weak, it just makes it different from the style you like. As for claims that it ripped off Eva. Wow, aside from a few subtle similarities that are more due to the commonality of the similarities than anything, it was scarcely similar to Eva at all. Heck, if they hadn't used mecha the comparison probably wouldn't even be made. But no, every Eva fan has to take any and every mecha series and find any small similarities they can and declare to the world how great Eva is and how everything else is just a wannabe. Back on to the main point of the article, the folks over on IGN saw this and are immediately assuming it's a sequel to E7. Aside from being from Bones I'm not seeing anything presented to support that, in fact, the style seems completely unlike E7 and there's no mention of Project Eureka on this one. I honestly don't think E7 even needs a sequel, and that a sequel may just in fact ruin the ending of the series as tends to happen from time to time. |
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BleuVII
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I like Eureka seveN. It's my favorite series. I am NOT going to rejoin the E7 vs. Eva debate.
Anyway, it's a Bones show, and that at least warrants the first 4-5 episodes. The studio has earned that much from me. And I'd say Sunrise is more heavily otaku based than Bones. I mean, come on, what else do you call Code Geass? And there was that series known as Gundam too... So which of these will come out first, Soul Eater or Bonen no Xamdou? Or will they come out at the same time? I have really been looking forward to Soul Eater, and I picked up the first graphic novel yesterday. Imagine my surprise to find out it was an ecchi novel! Hopefully neither of these anime will be ecchi pieces. |
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Leebo
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Soul Eater premiers on 04/07, while there is no premier date for Xamdou yet. |
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Xenofan 29A
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Well, the director is a fan of Eva, but the two are obviously very different as you said. However, you're also overreacting to the previous post, as the person you're arguing with did not say that Eureka Seven is an Eva rip-off, but rather that parts of it ripped off Eva. I disagree that any of it really ripped off Evangelion. I thought the show was very original. However, there are scenes visually influenced by Anno's aesthetic. Look at the episodes storyboarded by the director, Kyoda, and you may pick up on the same resemblence that I did. I really enjoy Bones's work. I've found it to be very consistantly well-done, unlike GAINAX's recent junk (Tsurumaki's work excepted), and they're probably one of my favorite studios in recent years. |
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hikaru004
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That's probably why Soul Eater has 2 broadcast times. Cut version premieres on 4/7 at 6 PM and uncut version premieres on 4/10 at 26:15. |
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Fiction Alchemist
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Delete.
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Dune
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Um, yeah. Not digging the pelvic-obsessed promo.
IIRC- Actually my problem with the show was that it spoonfed me excessive narration/monologue, which hurt the pacing and chances for subtlety. |
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Leebo
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 Pelvic-obsessed?
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bahamut623
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The only similarity I see it that it's most likely the same character designer...which I hope is true since I loved his designs in E7 and Oerman King Gainer. Other than that, and a similar color scheme, there's nothing that says they're related. But hey if it is, I won't complain. |
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Veoryn87
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I personally love early BONES stuff like FMA and Rahxephon. I think some of the best plots out there, like Scrapped Princess, have come from them. But I do think their quality in storytelling and characters has faltered lately. This new series just looks like a ton of fun and I like the artstyle.
I liked what I've seen of Kurau: Phantom Memory. I need to continue that sometime. |
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Dune
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The robot's face is right in her crotch. I don't consider myself a prude or anything, but yeesh. |
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