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GATSU
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penguin: What Charredknight said. As for Turn A, they could always give it a dub if the sub sells well enough for them.
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Lord Geo
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No, Jerry seemed to understand completely how this stuff works. Like he said, singles are the way to make money easier, since collections require you to sell more on average. He just felt that there are shows that are so niche that even being released in collections won't increase sales enough to make it worth it. His thoughts about super-value releases like S.A.V.E. also makes sense because a company like FUNi has to sell even more to make releases like those seem worth it, and if a show is really that niche then even a super-value price point won't make too much of a difference. Being super-cheap doesn't mean much if the show still isn't getting people's attention. Lance & Adam pretty much admitted that S.A.V.E. is effectively just a last-chance release for shows that they're not going to renew the licences to, though, i.e. they don't exactly care about making money on them quite as much as they do on a new release or an Anime Classics release. If they do make money on a S.A.V.E. release so be it, but if they don't it's probably a small loss in the end. If there's one thing that's annoying about anime fandom over here, it's that many think that a little knowledge let's them know more than they probably do in actuality. It's never really a simple "This idea 'works', this idea doesn't" sort of thing, yet that seems to be the general thought process that goes around. If collections were truly the save-all release method that every always makes them out to be, then you wouldn't see companies like Bandai and Media Blasters hesitant to do immediate collection releases and instead still do singles, though the episode counts are now in the 6-7 episode range instead of the old 3-5 range. Yeah, I love seeing collections too, but from a business standpoint they aren't quite the magical savior of the industry that everyone loves to act like they are.
Well, to be fair, having an online store didn't help AnimeNation when it came to their anime licensing side of things, AN Entertainment. RightStuf, though, is super-careful about their licenses and either goes for re-releases that are nice and cheap or they go all-out and give their releases great physical production value, not to mention that they never dub their brand-new licenses, outside of The Third, which also saves them money. |
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agila61
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This has got the economics of the S.A.V.E. releases confused ~ which Jerry's answer seem to have done as well ~ precisely because it ignores the point of a "super-value" release when a series coming near the end of its license term is not going to have its license renewed. Jerry's discussion did not distinguish that the "super budget" releases were re-releases under existing licenses, not initial releases and not license renewals. The choice there is between release or don't release: nothing at that point can change the money spent on the original mastering, subtitle translation, dubbing costs, or license contract costs and any Minimum Guarantee in the license that may not yet have been made. Since they don't seem to do much remastering for the S.A.V.E. editions, the mastering is mostly a sunk cost at that point. Given how low the incremental fixed costs of the S.A.V.E. releases are, the same margin over production costs that would mean a loss on the initial release can easily represent net revenue for the S.A.V.E. release, and either increase the profit on a proftable license, cut the loss on a losing license, or push a modestly losing license into profit. You'd not license a series in order to sell at the S.A.V.E. price. That's what Jerry seems to say, but its a bit misleading for the S.A.V.E. releases as such, since as Lance and Adam have described it, they don't license in order to sell at the S.A.V.E. price ... they license because they think the title will make money, and the S.A.V.E. release is just wringing the last bit of net revenue out of the rights that are going to be lapsing. |
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jerry_vo
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way to go interwebs, now i'm feeling even more self conscious about this podcast. my wife discovered it earlier this week and decided to adopt "at the end of the day"...everyday. lucky i didn't bust out my entire repertoire of cliched marketing speaks. |
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Nom De Plume De Fanboy
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I've checked my disks and Googled and Bing'd it, and come up dry; has anybody else found it? I'd kinda like to see this. |
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Asterisk-CGY
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Of course my really big question I want to ask Jerry now is: Does he still remember Kong or Jason?
*UCI Anime Club member alumni. |
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GATSU
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jerry_vo: So what's your Twitter?
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ljaesch
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I actually listened to this when it was first posted to the site, but this is the first chance I've had to sit down and post a comment.
Jerry, please don't feel so self-conscious about the podcast. I thought you did a great job. For me, this podcast was a great history lesson that covered some of the years where I hadn't been following anime. |
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