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Brand



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:09 pm Reply with quote
At least with U.S. pay for download shows it is almost always ends up being more expensive than having a subscription to Hulu or Netflix unless you watch like only one show a year or something.

I do own a few shows this way but honestly I've never watched them a second time. So unless there is no other way to watch I personally don't bother with this method much.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:21 pm Reply with quote
Brand wrote:
At least with U.S. pay for download shows it is almost always ends up being more expensive than having a subscription to Hulu or Netflix unless you watch like only one show a year or something.

Agreed. I currently watch five series on Amazon Strike on a weekly basis, so even assuming I was paying for Prime only for anime, each series would have to price $9 or less for a whole season for the subscription to not be worth it. Would have to be way lower than that for CR.

I also continue to find it amusing that people still complain about "we always hear the same voices" in English dubs but don't for Japanese dubs, where some seiyuu have hundreds of roles to their credits.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:33 pm Reply with quote
I have to guess that there are a lot of people who write questions to answerman, but don't read any comment sections on ANN. Many of these questions are answered there often, and equally as often ridiculed there.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:25 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
Brand wrote:
At least with U.S. pay for download shows it is almost always ends up being more expensive than having a subscription to Hulu or Netflix unless you watch like only one show a year or something.

Agreed. I currently watch five series on Amazon Strike on a weekly basis, so even assuming I was paying for Prime only for anime, each series would have to price $9 or less for a whole season for the subscription to not be worth it. Would have to be way lower than that for CR.

I also continue to find it amusing that people still complain about "we always hear the same voices" in English dubs but don't for Japanese dubs, where some seiyuu have hundreds of roles to their credits.


That might be because their range is quite different(?)? For instance, i couldn't tell Kara no Kyoukai's Shiki apart from Fate/Apocrypha's Jeanne D'arc and to some extent, this season's Magane.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:30 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
I also continue to find it amusing that people still complain about "we always hear the same voices" in English dubs but don't for Japanese dubs, where some seiyuu have hundreds of roles to their credits.

I'll admit that I do notice this in Sentai Filmworks dubs, where they have many of the same actors over and over again: Brittney Karbowski, David Matranga, Andrew Love, Luci Christian, etc. I've come to accept it as domestic anime's equivalent of summer-stock theatre, where if you go to every show of the season, you'll see recognize some of the same actors in different roles, often whatever they fit the general type of.

Anime is a lot more enjoyable when you stop looking for things to complain about.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:31 pm Reply with quote
Honestly, anyone who says they don't have CR because they can't afford it is lying. You can totally afford it, you just don't want to pay it. There's a difference.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:36 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
I also continue to find it amusing that people still complain about "we always hear the same voices" in English dubs but don't for Japanese dubs, where some seiyuu have hundreds of roles to their credits.


o.0 *Some* seiyuu, yes. For fairly small values of 'some'. (Not that the size of the resume is at all relevant.)

There's hundreds of Japanese seiyuu, and only a very few have more than one show a season. Very few have roles season after season after season. Most of them are fairly skilled in using slightly different voices. And there's a lot of shows.

For any given English dubbing company, there's a couple of dozen seiyuu at best. A large percentage of these have more than one role per season. A large percentage of them of have a role season after season after season. Practically none of them have any skill at varying their voice - they sound all but identical. And there's only a handful of shows.

That is why people complain about dubs - a small number of voices repeated across a small number of shows, season after season. A situation completely unlike that in Japan.
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Sahmbahdeh wrote:
Honestly, anyone who says they don't have CR because they can't afford it is lying. You can totally afford it, you just don't want to pay it. There's a difference.


Or you could get it for free with ads. Yeah, that's a dumb excuse. And few of these people saying they'd buy shows a-la-carte, but can't afford, or don't want to pay the egregious price of a monthly subscription to CR would actually do so. For starters, as noted by others, it would be way more expensive for significantly less content, but ultimately, as usual, it's just them trying to come up with some kind of justification for not spending a tiny amount(or inconveniencing themselves for a couple of minutes with ads) to help support the industry.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:55 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:

I also continue to find it amusing that people still complain about "we always hear the same voices" in English dubs but don't for Japanese dubs, where some seiyuu have hundreds of roles to their credits.


Maybe because only some would actually able to catch all the "Japanese dubs" while it is entirely possible to follow all the Eng dubs?

Among those smaller number of viewers able to catch/recognize a seiyuu doing multiple roles in different shows, in the same season in many cases, some may already been a fan of said seiyuu in the first place, making them less likely to complain.
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The "indirect kiss" (wherein putting your lips on a soda can or something after those of a potential love interest has touched them) is the stuff of melodramatic shoujo romances.


And even then, is seen as so traditionally blushing and schoolgirly first-crush, tends to be treated in comedies as "What are we, twelve years old?"

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Up north, there's Tohoku-ben, which is slower and mumbly, and usually has to be subtitled for the rest of the country. Kyushu-ben (from the eponymous Southwestern island) is, in some places, completely unintelligible to other Japanese speakers. Okinawan and Amami are basically not even Japanese anymore.


Qv. Osaka--who already gets kidded about her Kansai accent--asking Chiyo to teach her the "foreign" new language for their Okinawa school trip in the Azumanga Daioh episode...Shiisai yaibimi?

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Recently anime youtubers have put a lot of effort into telling people not use the pirate site Kissanime.The response from viewers was that the way Crunchyroll and mostly Netfilx and Amazon was not want they wanted to pay for -- either they can't afford it or the service is just not good for them. Aside from the familiar excuses (not much content available in my content available in my country, Netflix doesn't simulcast)


The "familiar" excuses--that mean old CR not making it available in Upper Slobovia, or Funi not making the subtitle available, or even, gasp, Amazon daring to put it on their own "shakedown" service--sooner or later drop the penny on the last reason:
Grudging fans don't want to pay for it, start making an Enemy of the company that won't give it to them, and then sink into fantasies of being avenging Phantom Thief hackers by tracking the show down on a pirate site, and saying "When those stupid companies go bankrupt, they'll learn to fear us united backwater-Internet pirates who liberate the anime for everyone!" Um.....yyyyeah. Confused

I've heard of KissAnime, and it seems to be the most professional, if that's the word, of illegal sites. But if I ever do look up something on it--after finding some stream that will actually work, playing a quick game of Whack-a-Mole with the six or seven spam pop-ups that show up on pirate sites, and running a quick virus/malware scan just in case--it's usually to look up some reference anime that's since disappeared off the face of the earth with folded companies or lost licenses, like UY, AzD or English-language Doraemon. Heaven knows it won't be on YouTube in any survivingly intact form.
If I want to look up Seven Deadly Sins, I already have a better legal copy on "mean old" Netflix to stream, but that's since I subscribe anyway, and don't live in one of those nasty faraway countries the licensed services "hate" so much.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:39 pm Reply with quote
invalidname wrote:
Key wrote:
I also continue to find it amusing that people still complain about "we always hear the same voices" in English dubs but don't for Japanese dubs, where some seiyuu have hundreds of roles to their credits.

I'll admit that I do notice this in Sentai Filmworks dubs, where they have many of the same actors over and over again: Brittney Karbowski, David Matranga, Andrew Love, Luci Christian, etc. I've come to accept it as domestic anime's equivalent of summer-stock theatre, where if you go to every show of the season, you'll see recognize some of the same actors in different roles, often whatever they fit the general type of.

Anime is a lot more enjoyable when you stop looking for things to complain about.


That is pretty similar to how I look at it. The bulk of recording is still done by an actor showing up at the studio, which means they need to be local if they hope to make money for their effort. That means that there is a limit to how many people there are to choose from, and that number gets smaller when you consider that many local actors don't know that anime dubbing might be a thing where they live. A lot of actors on Funimation commentaries have mentioned that they only got started because another cast member in a play suggested they audition. Throw in that the dubs need to be both quick (for cost reasons) and good (for the audience) and it's not hard to see why you see a lot of the same names. For what it's worth, Funimation has broadened its actor pool quite a bit, especially now that they are dubbing so much so fast.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:43 pm Reply with quote
Unless you live in a place where streaming services arent available, any excuse for pirating is dumb and laughable. You just don't want to pay the 7$ a month. You are going to buy the BD directly from Japan? Sure lol.
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GoldCrusader wrote:
Unless you live in a place where streaming services arent available, any excuse for pirating is dumb and laughable. You just don't want to pay the 7$ a month. You are going to buy the BD directly from Japan? Sure lol.

Even if it's not available where you live, if that excuse doesn't work for anything else, why should it work for anime? "Oh, they don't sell USD iTunes cards here, so I just stole some."
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:50 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
I also continue to find it amusing that people still complain about "we always hear the same voices" in English dubs but don't for Japanese dubs, where some seiyuu have hundreds of roles to their credits.
Agreed. I hear some Japanese actors/actresses so much that I'll put series off until later because I can't stand to hear the same person show after show for so long *cough*Junichi Suwabe*cough*
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Lord Oink



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:51 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
I also continue to find it amusing that people still complain about "we always hear the same voices" in English dubs but don't for Japanese dubs, where some seiyuu have hundreds of roles to their credits.


Far more anime is available in Japanese than what gets dubbed. 2/100 isn't the same as 2/10. Probably doesn't help so many of the big-name anime get grabbed up by the same companies either
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