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kusanagi-sama
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Considering that the Chinese gov't wants to make it where 40% or more of all animation shown on TV is made in China, and that Animation with live action sequences is banned, this number will definitely go down.
Examples of animation with live action sequences that could or would be banned in China: End of Evangelion Blues Clues Who Framed Roger Rabit Space Jam Macross 7 (Ending sequences) |
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Fui
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This is pretty shocking to me. I really don't have any clue about anime popularity worldwide, but this is beyond anything I imagined. 73.3% of Chinese and 81.4% of Korean high school students?? That's 3/4 of the students! I'm wondering about the legitimacy of this poll. I thought Chinese people hated Japanese people (well the mainland Chinese down in China). They take so much political action against Japan and such; I'd figure anything Japanese, especially cultural things like anime/manga, would be more restricted and downplayed there. This could have a big social or even political effect on the new asian cohort. Maybe China and Japan will become friends eventually after all...
On the flip side, I know Korean soaps are really popular in Japan, like that "Winter Sonata" drama. |
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darkhunter
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You still have a lot to learn little one. |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
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Judging with my personal experience, I'd say this poll was pretty accurate.
If that's so, China wouldn't become the largest fansub (I'm NOT talking about bootlegs) supplier of the world. Fansubbers stay up late till midnight, obtain digitally recorded RAW files immediately after an episode finished airing on Japanese TV, then translate, typeset, embed, compress, distribute, all done in six hours. Fans can see it on bittorrent hubs next morning. There's a small group of fenqing who hates Japanese culture, however, they are just like right wing extremists in every other country: very vocal with high media visibility, but doesn't do real damage (hopefully). Some parents do show their concerns on youths being too inclined to Japanese pop culture (such as the Death Note incident in northeast China, which students started writing names of people they hate on notebooks; when inquired by teachers, they said that they were mimicking Death Note), but their children reply, "yeah, right, you stop using Sony stereo and driving Toyota cars first."
Ever heard of Saaya Irie? 
EDIT: fixed a typo. Last edited by dormcat on Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:13 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Joe Mello
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While patriotism is nice, I would generally discount the views of ultra-nationalists. They may have solid points, but they are blocked off by a narrow vision of how today's world works in multiple aspects, especially political.
The poll is unsurprising and can probably be explained with several different answers, any combination of them being right. Japan is a bigger player in the global economy than China or Korea, so naturally there would be a desire to emulate them. Also, thanks to technological advances, the world is a lot "smaller" so the exchange of ideas can take place faster and more often; if what Japan has to offer looks good, then it's good for the other countries. And, taking a very archaic stance, if it's part of the United States' popular culture, then it's in everyone else's as well. 
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weirdofu
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I wonder where they were taking the sampling? If they were sampling from Taiwan and South Korea....then I guess the results are quite accurate. Or did they just sample within Japan? That's the problem with statistical results. Without the frame of reference, you never know what is right or what is wrong. Could very well be a case of skewed sampling. |
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zehroshi
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That one is just amusing/weird. What the hell. The chinese side of the animanga fandom is the largest I've ever heard of. I don't really see that poll as a surprise. I mean... the bootleg manga industry. (And I'm not even sure which company's translated-to-chinese manga is 'legal'. <_<; ) <-- I'm not saying this is just China. 
But yeah, Really don't think animanga will have an effect on the relationships between China and Japan.... as the relationship will be mostly based off of the politicians' decisions, instead. ;; <-- If that was totally wrong, feel free to bite my head off. <_<;
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Fui
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Yeah I really didn't have a clue about anime popularity elsewhere (and I appreciate the patronizing comment), but historically Chinese and Koreans both hated Japan. Heck, some of my Chinese friends' parents still dislike Japan and refuse to buy Japanese merchandise (my friend's dad refuses to buy a Japanese car). Anyway, I suppose that's why this article came as such a shock to me even though it may be "atarimai" (like..."duh") to you, since at least the Chinese government doesn't seem favorable to Japan in its politics. Recent incidents include China's rejection of Japan as a UN permanent security council member, frustration at the Japanese prime minister at visiting JP WWII graves, and Chinese citizens breaking windows and vandalizing the Japanese embassy in China because of Japan's decision to reduce the extent of the Manchuria conflict in Japanese textbooks. I was talking to my mom about it and asked her to guess how much anime was viewed by Chinese/Korean HS students and she guessed 70% and 80%, respectively (without any hints), which was surprising. Her thoughts were that although China and Korea did dislike Japan in the past, they still share a common "type" of culture (like eating with chopsticks) which would make anime a type of media that doesn't seem as out of place as it seems here.
Now if only China would quit the bootlegging...they really have no respect for intellectual property and copyright infringement. Yes no country really does but China still takes the cake. Oh and dormcat, go Saaya.  I dunno if that was the "right" way to go about it but hey, whatever works.
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Delacour
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well..I was still a mainland high school student one year ago, i have to doubt about the poll's result.
acrroding the gov's report ,China got 36.0763 millons high school students at 2004 (see here if u can understand ^ ^http://news.xinhuanet.com/video/2005-03/01/content_2633705.htm) are you telling me that 20millons chinese high schoolers watch anime or mangas? no way! I used to live in open and big city such as Shanghai, but only 5/60 people in my class watch Animes (and 3 of them watched only Naruto!) The only way can find peole have same interest is the internet. we know that since china's gov has hardly licenced any anime or manga from Japan. the only way to get them is from fansub or bootlegs(most of them are just copies of fansubs). of course china has the largest fansub supplier, But you have to know that the major population of animefans online were around 19-22 years old. it's because of the chinese education system. Chinese college students have lots of free time. but for high school student, they have to work at school from 7:00am - 9:00pm and got only 1-day-long weekend & huge amount of hw. and in addition Chinese stundents are not allowed to use internet outside home (except school and libary) i wondered when they got time to watch animes. (even if you say 2/3 of them watch TV, I'll doubt it. ^ ^)
the number of "fenqing" is limited but the major population doesn't have good impression on Japanese in general. You dare not say that you just love Japan at any occasion.there will be lots people come out to rebuke u. that's pretty sad. but if u just say that u love only anime or part of their culture, i think it's fine... and most chinese also like Japan's productions and buy them without doubts...even they say they hated Japanese...lol well it's the first time i reply here ....i think i talked too much politics here.. ^ ^ it's enough ... for conclusion, i have to say that any small poll won't be work and accurate on China which has 1300millon population. Last edited by Delacour on Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:58 am; edited 2 times in total |
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dormcat
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Thanks for the input, Delacour. Because manga (漫画) can be translated as any type of comics, I wonder if these 3/4 Chinese high school students read comics of any origin, not just Japanese manga. Furthermore, "has read manga" and "is currently reading and following several manga titles" are very different.
Kusanagi, you didn't' read Cloe's translation, did you? |
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Delacour
Posts: 6 Location: Vancouver |
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the poll put manga and anime together and was reported by the Japanese News website. therefore i think it just means Japanese manga only. and i see that translation problem too.... What china banned is the live actions like Godzilla (Japanese version) these kind of stuff...which is almost fully acted by real person....(no...i should say. they are not banned, but u can't put it on TV and classified it as a "anime" for children.) that's what they mean.(do you consider these ones are animes? I don't anyway..) so this document doesn't mean anything at all... in fact, i think 98% japanese anime are "banned"in china. but there is no offical document for it. Chinese gov't considers anime is only for young children.(no Age rating there).Therefore, most japanese animes' topics are considered "not good for children" (such as violence, bad language, nudity，even school Romance). people won't take risk to import them because they knew they won't got licence from the gov't. btw, sorry about that"evangelion" comments.... i didn't see it's "End of Evangelion " , mixed up with the TV seires.....so nvm about the reply, i have already deleted it ....lol |
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minakichan
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OK, this really isn't anything amazing. Turn on the TV in some Asian country, and there's usually SOME kind of anime on (if you have decent cable). Also have to remember (though this doesn't apply to high schoolers) that uh... Doraemon, Crayon Shin-chan? that's anime.
As for the Chinese-Japanese thing... it's an issue, but way overblown. Plus, it really doesn't affect HIGH SCHOOLERS as much, especially those "teenagers" who will defy their parents' wishes just to be rebels (I almost place myself under this label). |
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.Sy
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That's positive news; I suppose this will do good in the future. Some people are just too old to change their beliefs, but an influx of entertainment from other countries does a lot to improve tolerance. I had a pen pal there who said her friends really liked anime/manga, and I really hope this mindset is the one that we see in the future, because adolescents today going to be "running" the future. Forget the radicals. Like dormcat said, every country has 'em. As China increases its economic power, either bootlegging is going to rise a lot and start putting things off balance, or it will be cracked down on, in which the Chinese government won't be doing anytime too soon. I wonder, do so many Chinese watch it because its so accessible? Not just television, but some of the bootlegs (and I'm not talking perfect quality ones) are really cheap, even taking into account the lower standards of living compared to some of the western nations'. A few people here tell me they don't read manga because it's too expensive.
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drowz
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If the context of the poll was something along the lines of if they've ever seen any manga or anime it probably is possible. I think over here in Ontario the numbers would be close; at my old high school if anime was ever brought up, most people would have at least something to say about having seen a bit of dragon ball and the like from channel surfing.
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lion-san
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i had no idea china and korea really loved anime/manga like that
but its not that shocking to me some good mangaka's are from those 2 countries so i say spread the love! ^___^ i just love how Death note has people actually making Death notebooks i want a real one..
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