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hikura
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This is what needs to happen.Hit them in the pocketbook and hit them hard.That is the only thing will understand.
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idkAlan
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A recent article on MarketWatch mentioned that Zuckerberg told employees & investors that Facebook currently has around 8 million advertisers globally & that the recent boycotts aren't going to make a significant loss for them to actually make them change their policies. https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/zuckerberg-on-facebook-ad-boycott-all-these-advertisers-will-be-back-soon-enough-2020-07-01 So unless FB's major global advertisers all decide to permanently boycott them & not treat this as a quick PR move, they'll all come back to FB sooner or later |
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Swiftyy
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Does anyone else feel like this is less about stopping hate and more about these companies slashing advertising budgets due to the on-going pandemic?
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harminia
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Considering how useful and important FB advertising is, not really. |
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Top Gun
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So he's still a complete piece of garbage. Figures. |
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encrypted12345
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Eh, as funny as that would be, they would be more likely to slash budgets on smaller platforms, not Facebook, if it were just because of the advertising budget. Though, that could be a factor. |
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nargun
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It's actually worth having a look at the conceptual model behind facebook's "friendship": + it's inherently symmetric; A likes B means B likes A + all a person's "friends" are equivalent + transitivity; you're interested in your friends' friends. That's... not how real humans interact. It's not a technical requirement: Google + had a circles model that didn't have any of facebook's problems, which actually revealed to google information on the strength and nature of the relationship that Facebook would value if they had it. It's... it's like they -- they = zuckerberg -- read a dictionary definition of "friend" once and tried to write a program to work like that without really understanding the concept. |
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DavetheUsher
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Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.. 
If anyone can call a bluff, it'd be Zuckerberg. Will be interesting to see how it goes. Reminds me when people tried to boycott Twitch a week or so ago but only a bunch of very small 100 viewer streamers did it and none of the 30,000+ viewers did. I wonder how big the advertising budget for PlayStation was compared to other companies. The problem with advertiser boycotts is it just opens up a space for the next company to swoop in. Happened with YouTube a few times.. Coke says they'll announce their ending ads, and then suddenly you see Pepsi and RC Cola ads because other companies are gonna jump in to fill the void Coke left. |
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TarsTarkas
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How nice, we are calling people garbage who don't agree with us. Does anyone really believe Zuckerberg is some hate speech proponent. I'd like to believe his actions have more to do with the First Amendment and defying social mob rule.
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BadNewsBlues
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Come on now, RC Cola is a myth 
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dragonrider_cody
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First of all, the First Amendment doesn’t apply to private companies and Facebook has had no issues taking down content or at least flagging it with a fact check. Second of all, Zuckerberg’s motives, like most corporate CEO’s, are profit driven. |
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Vaisaga
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So what exactly do they want Facebook to do? Be like Twitter where they ban Conservatives but let Liberals get away with everything?
Let people say whatever they want. That way you know exactly the kind of person they are and you can avoid them. |
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AkumaChef
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I don't think Zuckerberg is a proponent of hate speech either, but Facebook, Instagram, etc seem to be the among the main driving forces behind "social mob rule". There's also the fact that Facebook has been hit with one major privacy scandal after another and has done very little to change their ways. Finally, there's the matter of "fact checking" and content banning being applied very inconsistently across the platform, with a lot of that sort of content allowed to proliferate while other content is taken down or flagged in error. Just to be clear, Facebook is not the only online service which is guilty of those things but they certainly are entitled to some share of the blame. |
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El Hermano
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I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face Facebook is the main driving force behind social mob rule when Twitter exists. Every day people are doxxed. People are threatened and harassed into suicide or at least losing their job. There's people dedicated to make certain hashtags trending to try to influence and change things. People can flat out lie and post blatant misinformation and get rewarded with trending status because it's a platform specifically designed to encourage people to make the most inflammatory, reactionary, half-truth post to get as much interaction and traction as possible. Nobody uses Twitter to have an intelligent or rational conversation, it doesn't even have the character limit for it. It's for quick, snappy zingers and statements presented as facts. I don't know if Zuckerberg actually said "they'll be back" like it's reported he did in a meeting, but I kind of hope he did because it'd be nice for a CEO to stand up to this kind of pressure and bullying for once. This is what destroyed YouTube and made everyone migrate over to Twitch and Patreon to make content since it's impossible to make a living solely on YouTube anymore thanks to all the changes and cuts they've done to appease the outrage mobs who kept attacking the platform over the years, and even those platforms have their own problems. Granted, I don't really use Facebook much besides talking to distant relatives and a couple gacha games that have it as their only way to link or backup your account so I don't know if you can even make money on it, but with that Facebook Gaming and Mixer thing I guess it could be a thing in the future if they're going to try to compete with Twitch so it's probably important to nip this in the bud. |
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ATastySub
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Uh, this is exactly the thing advertisers are pulling out of facebook over my dude. So maybe consider that before proudly declaring
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