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NEWS: Netflix Streams Shin-Ei Animation's Pui Pui Molcar Stop-Motion Series Worldwide Outside of Som




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zunderdog24



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:34 am Reply with quote
They arent puppets. If they were puppets, there wouldnt be any point to it being stop motion.
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MagicPolly



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:03 am Reply with quote
Perfect, now I can force everyone I know to watch it and see the art that is Pui Pui Molcar
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Egan Loo



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:07 am Reply with quote
zunderdog24 wrote:
They arent puppets. If they were puppets, there wouldnt be any point to it being stop motion.


Puppets have been used in stop-motion for over a century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_motion

More to the point, the creators call their characters "puppets."
https://molcar-anime.com
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WANNFH



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:14 am Reply with quote
zunderdog24 wrote:
They arent puppets. If they were puppets, there wouldnt be any point to it being stop motion.
Huh? It's literally made with puppets that have replaceable parts.
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Donkey-er



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:10 am Reply with quote
zunderdog24 wrote:
They arent puppets. If they were puppets, there wouldnt be any point to it being stop motion.


I really understand where you're coming from. I think the term puppets is a bit odd to use here, but I guess that doesn't go for everybody.
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zunderdog24



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:12 am Reply with quote
Egan Loo wrote:
zunderdog24 wrote:
They arent puppets. If they were puppets, there wouldnt be any point to it being stop motion.


Puppets have been used in stop-motion for over a century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_motion

More to the point, the creators call their characters "puppets."
https://molcar-anime.com


1. References to wikipedia articles are worthless when trying to reinforce your points against other people.
2. I found nothing in that link to the creators that suggests they refer to them as puppets.
3. Even if they did refer to them as puppets, I dont suspect english is their first language so mislabeling something isnt out of the realm of possibility.
4. Just because a creator says something doesnt automatically make it true.

And for the other guy, puppets arent defined as having replaceable parts.
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ab2143



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:17 am Reply with quote
I had set a reminder on Netflix for this masterpiece. Cannot wait to rewatch!! Still would have liked an episode where the molcars turned against their human masters
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WANNFH



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:57 am Reply with quote
zunderdog24 wrote:
And for the other guy, puppets arent defined as having replaceable parts.
And by what they are defined, if I may ask? Only by the live puppeteer movement?

Replacement puppet animation exists for a long time, and Molcar was made exactly by that technic. They are not models.
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Egan Loo



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:26 am Reply with quote
zunderdog24 wrote:
Egan Loo wrote:
zunderdog24 wrote:
They arent puppets. If they were puppets, there wouldnt be any point to it being stop motion.


Puppets have been used in stop-motion for over a century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_motion

More to the point, the creators call their characters "puppets."
https://molcar-anime.com


1. References to wikipedia articles are worthless when trying to reinforce your points against other people.


It's true that Wikipedia should be only a stepping stone to the definitive sources. So here are two definitive sources — two studios that are arguably the leading studios in stop-motion:

https://www.aardman.com/course/first-steps-model-making/
https://www.aardman.com/the-studio/history/

https://www.laika.com/careers
https://www.laika.com/our-films/missinglink/cast-crew-ml

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2. I found nothing in that link to the creators that suggests they refer to them as puppets.


On the front page:
https://molcar-anime.com/wp-content/themes/molcar-anime/images/top/img-copy-2-pc.png

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3. Even if they did refer to them as puppets, I dont suspect english is their first language so mislabeling something isnt out of the realm of possibility.


I would suspect that the first language of a good number of Aardman and Laika creators is English.

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4. Just because a creator says something doesnt automatically make it true.


So on one hand, Laika, Aardman, and Shin-Ei Animation, among other stop-motion creators, say they make and use puppets.

On the other hand ... who is saying that these stop-motion creators don't know what stop-motion puppets are?
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