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The ANN Aftershow - Is the PLUTO Anime a Masterpiece?


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Gem-Bug



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:24 pm Reply with quote
I keep forgetting about the Aftershow, but isn't it usually Tuesdays...?
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Top Gun



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:54 pm Reply with quote
Me, only 3 episodes in: "Yes. Next question?"
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Vercinto



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:32 pm Reply with quote
They should do a Monster remake too.
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Matros



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:36 pm Reply with quote
A few big veteran animators weren't happy how their work was treated. (e.g. inviting an effects specialist and then replacing his work with CG) The compositing in general is awful. Whose idea was to blur freaking Ohira's animation? So things like that disqualifies it from being a masterpiece.

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darkchibi07



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:53 pm Reply with quote
Vercinto wrote:
They should do a Monster remake too.

Considering how super faithful the anime adaptation was to the manga, that seems unnecessary.
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tywhoppity



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:53 pm Reply with quote
I honestly thought it drug on a bit; if it completed the story in six episodes, it would've been better.
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Vercinto



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:16 pm Reply with quote
darkchibi07 wrote:

Considering how super faithful the anime adaptation was to the manga, that seems unnecessary.
Do you have any idea why remakes are being made?
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sirdano1



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:35 pm Reply with quote
Nope, not even close.
The only masterpiece this year is Frieren.
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ZelosZoidberg



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:57 pm Reply with quote
I thought the Urusei Yatsura remake would be my anime of the year but here we are with PLUTO stealing it late in the year. All episodes managed to make me cry. I can understand one or two episodes of a 24 episode (which it kinda is since episodes are roughly 1 hour) show making me cry but to have me cry roughly every 2 episodes is something. I haven't had this many tears since Grave of the Fireflies. A Masterpiece indeed.

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MrPuzzles



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:19 pm Reply with quote
Yes.

Unfortunately I can't hit submit with just three letters in a single post, but if I could, it's just be "Yes."
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Gem-Bug



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:23 pm Reply with quote
darkchibi07 wrote:
Vercinto wrote:
They should do a Monster remake too.

Considering how super faithful the anime adaptation was to the manga, that seems unnecessary.


I just watched it for the first time back in the Spring, and I can hardly believe it's almost 20 years old. Still looks amazing.
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Ryo Hazuki



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:07 am Reply with quote
What is it with anime fans and gamers being so remake horny?
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Vercinto



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:50 am Reply with quote
Ryo Hazuki wrote:
What is it with anime fans and gamers being so remake horny?
Because at their very core, even if they adapt old source material, or are new versions, they are the product of the current era, and most people prefer to engage with those.

It's not even about quality itself, or whether something is NECESSARY (hint: it isn't: it's just anime, not oxygen), but simply that we live in a very fast world, there is more than enough satisfying modern anime, and rarely who will start talking about something old, not to mention having active conversations.

As for games, well, gaming in general evolved, and spoiled us.
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:57 am Reply with quote
Vercinto wrote:
darkchibi07 wrote:

Considering how super faithful the anime adaptation was to the manga, that seems unnecessary.
Do you have any idea why remakes are being made?
To make money using established IPs?
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Fluwm



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:08 pm Reply with quote
Ryo Hazuki wrote:
What is it with anime fans and gamers being so remake horny?


I can understand it more with games, as older games tend not to age very well graphically (EG Final Fantasy VII's infamously crude low-poly character models), have various performance issues, or not even be able to run at all on modern hardware (EG Macross 30, the GOAT) but none of that really applies to, well... any other medium. Well, except maybe film and television.

And maybe I'm just a bit cynical, but when I think of remaking anime... I know there are some great standout examples (EG FMA Brotherhood, Yamato 2199, etc.) but my first thought always goes to Dragon Ball Kai -- and, by extension, Super -- where the new, "modern" animation just looks... so much worse than the older stuff from the 80s and 90s.

That, or I think back to how blown away I've been watching older animated work... simply because the animation was so impressive compared to the typical quality we see today (EG Miyazaki's earliest work on Lupin the Third from the '70s).

That said, I do think there is a much clearer argument for remakes when it comes to adaptations that were never adapted well or completely, like Gundam's The Origin -- which would've been spectacular to see given the full remake treatment, especially given how poor much of the animation work from 1979 is.
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