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NEWS: Kyoto Animation's Animation Do Spinoff Unveils New Anime's Ad

Kaioshin_Sama wrote:

jsevakis wrote: But go ahead, keep putting your own wishes into the mouths of a company you clearly don't know much about. almost appears to be shrinking considering they lost the Key license apparently.

Yes, you don't know shit.

I fail how this amounts to me not knowing shit or explains how my statement is in any way false.

And most of their works seem to be gender-neutral in who they can appeal too, like girls watching and enjoying K-ON because it's cute.

scineram wrote:

Kaioshin_Sama wrote: jsevakis wrote: But go ahead, keep putting your own wishes into the mouths of a company you clearly don't know much about. almost appears to be shrinking considering they lost the Key license apparently. Yes, you don't know shit.

So basically both companies were being incredibly stubborn about it is what you are trying to tell me. I fail how this amounts to me not knowing shit or explains how my statement is in any way false.

omoikane wrote:

I always thought when it comes to anime, fujoshi are one of the worst performing market segments historically.

The fujoshi crowd has always had some kind of influence in the medium, as if you can really catch their interest, they'll buy stuff from said series in droves. Just look at Reborn!, Magi, Kuroko's Basketball, Gintama, Blue Exorcist, Tiger and Bunny, and Fate/Zero. All of those series were able to reach the level of popularity they had because of their ability to capture the fujoshi market.

It won't be surprising if there is more fujoshi pandering series in the future because of how much of a boon the market can be.

omoikane wrote:

To be actually serious, I always thought when it comes to anime, fujoshi are one of the worst performing market segments historically.

Fangirls are a steady market overall, really no better or worse than fanboys when it comes to supporting a series that captures their attention. What you're missing out on--and why it makes sense to cultivate a fangirl audience--is one word: MERCHANDISE.

Fangirl-popular shows make an absolute killing on the related material. Yeah, fanboys might buy pillows and figurines, but fangirls will buy pillows, figurines, keychains, perfume, phone covers, stationary sets, plushies, organizers, posters, ect, ect, ect.

You have to look beyond sales of the actual media to understand the market and why the fangirl segment has been steadily growing in clout.

As for the poor fans blinking back tears at the potential of not being pandered to by KyoAni for a season? Cry more.

Get over yourself, champ. People make things for people who aren't you.

I don't see why KyoAni is viewed as a guy's only club, didn't girls eat up all of the Key adaptations too? And most of their works seem to be gender-neutral in who they can appeal too, like girls watching and enjoying K-ON because it's cute.

walw6pK4Alo wrote:

I don't see why KyoAni is viewed as a guy's only club, didn't girls eat up all of the Key adaptations too? And most of their works seem to be gender-neutral in who they can appeal too, like girls watching and enjoying K-ON because it's cute.

"Shows aimed at men that women might be willing to watch" is a very, very odd definition of "gender-neutral".

Let me put it this way. If this commercial had been about cute girls in swimsuits, do you think the fangirl population would be shrieking like a bunch of babies whose pacifiers had been stolen? No, they would have shrugged and ignored it at worst, because "this is not for you" is the baseline for most high budget anime in the current market.

Are the people who are shrieking and watching the videos the same people who are going to import it for 400 dollars? If not, they are irrelevant to KyoAni.

The people who WILL spend that much are generally raging on Japanese forums and blogs about how KyoAni has abandoned them. Pissing off your loyal fanbase is the #1 way to lose money.

The people who WILL spend that much are generally raging on Japanese forums and blogs about how KyoAni has abandoned them. Pissing off your loyal fanbase is the #1 way to lose money.

No, it's just spoiled children angry at the idea of a certain segment of the anime fandom they dislike getting the same thing they've been enjoying for a long time.