Thatguy3331 wrote: |
mrsticky005 wrote: |
Thatguy3331 wrote: |
mrsticky005 wrote: | Personally I'd give the art a "B". I think One Piece's art style is great.
I don't have so much a problem with how everything is actually
drawn but rather as it has been said the panels are just way too
crowded and it's hard to actually enjoy the art work and story.
Yet at the same time I hate Fishman Island with a passion
so I don't exactly wish to "take the scenic tour". so in that regard
the crowded panels are welcome because the sooner the arc
ended the better. Too bad it couldn't end soon enough.
Ironically I thought Vander Decken was one of the few GOOD things
about the arc along with Fisher Tiger and Arlong.
Everything else is trash as far as I'm concerned.
Especially Jinbei. Has he died yet? I hope he does.
Am I hater? Well if I am I wasn't before. I once thought One Piece was the greatest. But well the time skip killed it for me. |
well, its only one arc. I can't exactly speak for it being absolutly perfect because it isn't but its not like the arc dominated the story. |
The arc is six volumes long. No it doesn't "dominate" the story but I don't like the direction it's taking it. Sure there will be better arcs
but I no longer find them worth waiting for. And Fishman Island
is hardly the only arc I dislike. Skypeia and Thriller Bark aren't particular my favorites either. Fishman Island is just the straw that broke the camel's back for me. It represents all that is wrong
with One Piece. You say One Arc but I say it's one arc that summarizes what One Piece has become and I don't like it. |
Hm, oh well, I rather liked skypia for the most part, and I haven't seen thriller bark yet (but brooks in it damn it! how can it possibly be bad?!?!) so I can't exactly make the best argument, however I'm puzzled on this so called direction you're talking about, especially with whats one piece become. |
Pretty much it feels like the main cast has been reduced
to a few one liners and gags. In short they're boring now.
Side characters seem to just exist to be victims.
They have personality but it feels slapped on.
Either that or their personality degrades into a gag.
Villains are either rather annoying or not interesting and stale.
Sometimes though the annoying villains can be fun but it's a bit
of a hit and miss type deal.
What was the point of Fishman Island? Don't say "racism" yes I'm sure Oda wanted to get on his soap box. But I don't think it works.
I will say that I thought the Fisher Tiger incident was rather well
done. But as for everything else it was just really hard to care.
Sure we got that Shirahoshi is one of the ancient super weapons
(I forget what it is called). But it's like I kinda wish they just stop by, say "Oh look another piece to the puzzle" and then leave.
And no, this is NOT because I'm "too impatient for the New World."
Unlike a lot of people I actually do enjoy a slow paced story.
But it has to actually be enjoyable. There's a world of difference
between "slow paced" and "dragging it out." A lot of times when
people ask about "is One Piece worth it?" The common response is
"The first few arcs are slow but it gets better." I never felt that way.
I thought the whole East Blue Saga was excellent. Buggy is awesome. Captain Kuro is awesome. Don Kreig was lame but it made up for it with Mihawk and Gin. Arlong was awesome.
I even love stuff like the dude in the treasure chest. That was fun.
But then we got Fishman Island. Hody Jones is anything but awesome. He's not a threat. He has steroid pills. Big whoop.
It was obvious from the very beginning Luffy would kick his ass.
Now there's nothing wrong with a good ol Monkey D Luffy thrashing
but either get to it quickly or make the arc actually interesting.
Making the arc about "racism" is NOT interesting. That's not to say
it's not an interesting (and tragic) subject. But not in the comically preachy way that Oda portrays it. It's like being lectured by NBC.
It's like we get this whole spiel from Jinbei the Coward about oh no
the cycle of violence and racism and you can't get involved Luffy
as if the stakes were so damn high. Guess what? Luffy kicks Hody Jones ass and everything is fine and dandy. Hody Jones just happens to be racist hypocrite for the hell of it. It's not that this
couldn't be a damn well interesting sub plot but it's such an ass
pull that it's just like "...really Oda?" And it's obvious why it was done.
"Because it's so deep and insightful?" NO. It's because Oda doesn't
have the balls to make Luffy an actual moral grey character despite all the times Luffy lets others decide whether he's good or bad
(in other words this is Oda saying that the morality of Luffy's
actions are up to you.) But there's really no need for them to be.
Luffy is obviously a good person. Now there's nothing wrong with
that. Actually I quite like the classic hero. But let's keep it that way.
If we are supposed to always root for Luffy then let's do just that.
That is actually one of the things that makes East Blue Saga so
great because there was never really any bullshit about whether
or not Luffy was good or bad. Oh sure he causes all sorts of trouble
but it's more due to his stupidity and recklessness then any moral character flaws. But it was like this big bad villain was introduced,
they had wacky powers. Luffy has better wacky powers. The end.
Now it's all this crap about "violence never solves anything" in
a manga where EVERYTHING is solved with GUM GUM PISTOL.
Speaking of Luffy causing trouble. Fishman Island Arc REALLY
failed to deliver. I'm talking about the "destruction of Fishman Island by Luffy" prophecy. It didn't happen. What a rip off. And no it's not
a great twist when it doesn't occur because the only reason why
I was putting up with the Hody Jones nonsense is because I was
interested in how and why LUFFY WOULD DESTROY THE ISLAND.
Making it just a "misunderstanding" is a cheap move by Oda.
Now this is mainly what I find wrong with Fishman Island but
I can't help but think this will become an unfortunate staple
of One Piece storytelling. I do actually want to like this series.
I own 24 of the volumes and have invested a lot of time and
money into it. My arguments may be flawed but I hope you
can see that I'm not the typical "Luffy is a smiling dumb ass"
type hater. Though when you think about it's kinda true.
Except that Luffy is a smiling dumb bad ass. Let's keep it that way.