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Paiprince
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I really wonder what mdo aims to accomplish with his K Evangelism in an anime site of all places. If anything, he doesn't preach to the heavens about manwha or Korean animation. Now that's some food for thought.
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mdo7
Posts: 6268 Location: Katy, Texas, USA |
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Redirecting this back to Fedora-San. I don't know if this count but several K-dramas has been shown on Spanish channel (dubbed in Spanish) like Telemundo and Mundofox: You're Beautiful (Eres mi Estrella in Spanish) on Telemundo Secret Garden (Jardin Secreto in Spanish) trailer on Telemundo Shining Inheritance (Sorpresas del Destino in Spanish) on Telemundo Shining Inheritance on Mundofox Stairway to Heaven (Escalera Al Cielo in Spanish) on Mundofox |
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sunflower
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To me the larger number of terrible dubs in the past has a lot to do with unfamiliarity with the difference between anime VA requirements and those of American cartoons. American cartoons require that people do funny and very exaggerated voices, a la Mel Blanc and the Simpson's cast. Anime can require things like that, like Nyanko-sensei in Natsume Yuujincho, but for the most part it just needs people treating the role as if they were acting it in a movie- no schtick, just acting.
As anime became more widespread here, people understood that better and so their are more VAs and studios who get that and do that. I'm not saying there weren't great dubs back then, just that there were fewer. |
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Tenchi
Posts: 4471 Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer. |
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Some of the late-era Geneon dubs were very sub-par, like with one of my favourite anime from the past decade (although its 10th anniversary is coming up next summer), Strawberry Marshmallow. It's not that the dub is that cringeworthy if I was reviewing individual performances, but none of the women doing the dub sound much like 11 or 12-year old girls, so they all come across as sounding super mature for their age. It's like, if the dub actresses had been voicing high school students, Strawberry Marshmallow wouldn't stick out much at all in my mind as an example of a not-quite-terrible-but-not-very-good-either dub, but there's just too much of a disconnect between the voices and the visuals. |
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leafy sea dragon
Posts: 7163 Location: Another Kingdom |
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If voice actors WERE shared between anime and western animation, then I'd bet another major factor is that they're dubbing over finished animated footage for anime whereas for western animation, they do the acting before any animation is done, and then the characters are animated based on the actor's performance.
When someone is used to acting without having to lip-synch to anyone, they're going to have a difficult time when they do. There's a bunch more crossover of actors between anime and western animation now though, but I noticed most come from anime, then started also doing western animation, like with Yuri Lowenthal, and I'd bet it's because it's easier to transition from lip-synching acting to not-lip-synching acting. (Then again, you have cases like Hynden Walch who went in the other direction.) |
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Tenchi
Posts: 4471 Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer. |
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I have a sub-question about Justin's statement about the Korean pop industry "jettisoning" physical CDs: does that mean you can't get CDs from most K-pop acts at all anymore, or does it mean, as I suspect, that CDs still exist but they're not the primary revenue stream?
It's just, y'know, some of us luddites still value owning physical copies of music we like and I'm glad I can still get CDs of practically any album or single a J-pop singer puts out (and will still be able to do so for some time to come). I'm not about to start buying K-pop as I understand a little Japanese but not any Korean, so it's mostly a moot point, but if I were interested in K-pop, I'd still rather have the physical media option. |
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leafy sea dragon
Posts: 7163 Location: Another Kingdom |
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Hey, we Americans still buy vinyl records. Heck, vinyl record releases come out for modern music to this day. There's heavy nostalgia involved in buying music.
No love for cassette tapes, 8-tracks, or those wax cylinders Thomas Edison used though. But I'm guessing it's because they're not nearly as durable as vinyls or CDs. Now that you bring it up though, I'm wondering too. I can see Koreans relinquishing CDs entirely, as their culture is on the bleeding edge of technology and digital socialization and proud of it. |
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Tenchi
Posts: 4471 Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer. |
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I'm not saying I don't appreciate vinyl, and I have two turntables (and a microphone, ha ha) in my house, but CD is still the primary way I listen to music since you can listen to CDs in practically every other kind of optical media player/drive other than the Nintendo Game Cube. Okay, I don't know if every Laserdisc player had a CD tray, but the base model Pioneer one I have does.
EDIT: Oh, yeah, you can also obviously not play CDs on a UMD drive in a PSP or other UMD devices that also existed pre-PSP. Last edited by Tenchi on Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:55 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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poonk
Posts: 1490 Location: In the Library with Philip |
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I once got a Big Bang album (they're actually more like EPs when one considers the number of songs but whatever) and I had to look up a YouTube video to see how to get the CD out of the box. |
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mdo7
Posts: 6268 Location: Katy, Texas, USA |
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Then where's your evidence?? This is blanket statement from what I'm reading.
Very true, K-pop CDs are cheaper and also they have a very nice packaging, I bought like 5 K-pop CDs during my trip in South Korea. |
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poonk
Posts: 1490 Location: In the Library with Philip |
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Touma
Posts: 2651 Location: Colorado, USA |
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I copied "anti-Japanese sentiment in South Korea" from your previous post and pasted it into Google and got what seems to be hundreds of hits. I did not do more than take a quick look at a few of them because I really do not care, but the pages do seem to be there. |
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
Posts: 7580 Location: Wales |
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Here's a little anecdote about what it was like doing anime dubs in the UK in the 90s:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=inWpe4hhc0IC&pg=PA235 |
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Tony K.
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Moderator Posts: 11305 Location: Frisco, TX |
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Now that things have been peacefully resolved between everyone, I'm re-opening this thread.
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mdo7
Posts: 6268 Location: Katy, Texas, USA |
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Thank you Tony, I'll follow my promise I made. |
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