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GATSU
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mdo:
What part of, 'The Japanese PR people do not speak the language' do you not understand? The Korean and Chinese PR people, on the other hand, do know English. It's an important difference here.Also, again, the Japanese companies do not want to go broke going overseas, just to get a C-list actor for a D-War-type flop. When you can't even make your investment back on expensive versions of a known property-like the CG Harlock or Saint Seiya flicks-then it's just sound business to keep the live-action stuff cheap.
I'm sure the Chinese and South Koreans have their fair share of disasters, too. For example, have you seen that bootleg Tekken movie with Sammo Hung?
Well, 47 Ronin is nothing like the original play. And Marvel has never really found a niche in Japan until Iron Man, anyway. So I think RDJ going there would've made for a better box office than Wolverine.
That's because they don't like being portrayed negatively, even if they were wrong in the war. And Hollywood has that habit with Asian characters. Unless they want that Chinese money. Then they start pretending they're respectful.
Exactly.
I haven't seen Casino, yet. But the change of settings wasn't the issue. It was that The Departed was a boring take on a great story. |
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phia_one
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I'd actually be interested in seeing this. I'm not crazy about the director choice, but it's GitS.
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Sticks
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I still say that Olivia Wilde would make a better Major then Johansson, mainly cause I believe she has the better look and feel. Picking Johansson just because she "could" bring in a audience doesn't mean she'll be any good at it. The producers could be sacrificing real quality for a "safe bet". Although I do like her in the Marvel films (as well as a few projects she's done), her acting comes off as blank when playing the badass.
As far as being a American actress playing a potential Japanese character..... Come on guys, use your imagination from the stories... She would be a Japanese national who's brain was placed in prosthetic body.... How hard is that to understand??? Geez.... 
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mdo7
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That's a load of bull, do you how many Engrish I can find out of Mainland China, as much the same rate as you can find Engrish in Japan. As I observed out of Japan, South Korea, and mainland China Japanese films can't hold candle against not only Hollywood, but also Mainland Chinese cinema and Korean cinema. I mean I can't even find a recent Japanese film that can hold candle to Roaring Currents, or Drug War.
May I ask about the Tekken movie with Sammo Hung, the last time I check I don't know anything about that. I know about the 2009 live-action Hollywood version of Tekken and I don't recall Sammo Hung appearing or being involved with that film or neither the sequel. So where's your evidence of Tekken with Sammo Hung, I never heard of it.
Uh, no. Do you not know about Toei's Spiderman made in the 70's? Also the X-men cartoon (I'm not talking about the X-Men anime made by Madhouse) was very popular when it came out in Japan. How did a popular character like Wolverine whose principle based on Samurai could've flopped in Japan when X-men characters are popular in Japan. I'll tell you why, it's because the general Japanese audiences don't watch much US films anymore.
I doubt that, if that was the case then why did Letters from Iwo Jima did well (and earn a lot of money) in Japan then in the US despite showing the Japanese soldiers losing to US soldiers in the film (that include scenes of Japanese soldiers being killed by US soldier).
I didn't have that problem when I watched The Departed, I thought it captured the first film well. But Zhang Yimou remaking one of the Coen Brothers film and turning it into a screwball comedy would be an issue with me, and it should've been an issue for you too. How could you say that The Departed was a boring take on Infernal Affairs but defended Zhang Yimou's take on Blood Simple, that's very hypocritical of you for that, and you said you don't think Asian film is superior. 
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GATSU
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Galician: Yes, the 'any Asian will do for the role' mentality is a problem, but a different problem that needs to be resolved at a different time. At the moment, the issue is that they're being recast in favor of white people.
Oshii's version is a Cliff Notes take on Shirow's material. The main idea is still there, though. Stick: My pick is Maggie Q. She can fight and speak the language. mdo:
I'm not talking about how many people speak fluent English in Japan, Korea, and China as a whole. I'm talking about people who work in their respective entertainment, IT, and manufacturing industries in high positions in those countries. And Japanese executives are notorious for shunning the language, even though they're losing market share to their Asian neighbors, because of it.
This 'winner' here.
That's 'cus I said it was a bootleg, not an official film.
Totally different from the regular Spiderman, though.
Just 'cus they came up with an anime-themed opening for the X-Men cartoon does not mean it's popular.
Because, again, they're not being portrayed in some 'evil' light.
Perhaps, but the Coens have a dark comedy thing going on in general, so...Plus, it's a different interpretation of the same story. Yimou didn't try to gut what made it appealing. It's like The Happiness of the Katakuris vs. The Quiet Family. Last edited by GATSU on Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:53 am; edited 1 time in total |
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enurtsol
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Percentage-wise, the % Japanese in US population is about the same % foreigners in Japan population. So if Japanese cinema cannot find enough foreign actors to play roles, Hollywood sure ain't gonna find Japanese actors. Also, Japanese can't tell white Westerners apart neither. 
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walw6pK4Alo
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Yeah, but of the foreigners in Japan, they're still mostly Chinese or Korean.
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Stuart Smith
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Spider-Man's not as popular as people make him out to be in Japan. Or at least the Spider-Man people want to be popular. The old Toei show is mostly what people remember Spider-Man from, which makes him the most recognized Marvel character in Japan, but that doesn't lead to as much popularity as people might think. The live-action movies do well enough to the point of being the highest grossing superhero movies in Japan, but again that's more because he's the hero the average Japanese person probably recognizes. I'm not sure where people are getting Iron Man and X-Men being popular in Japan from, because those movies tanked in Japan. And even if you want to cite American movies declining in Japan as a reason, it's not as if the American comics or cartoons for these heroes are popular over there either. Literally nothing they're in does all that well over there, so what are people basis this off of? There's a reason Marvel continues to try to appeal to Japan with shows like Disk Wars Avengers, because they haven't succeeded yet.
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GATSU
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Stuart: Well, like I mentioned in another thread, Iron Man's crossed over there like nothing else.
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mdo7
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Yeah but changing their name from their original name to a Japanese name to prevent discrimination. |
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Holo Wolfgod
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what horrors will they unleash?!
unless Spielberg himself directs this, I don't see a good outcome at all |
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Stuart Smith
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In what way? If it's not the movies, the cartoons, the comics, or the anime adaptions, what else is there for him to be popular with? -Stuart Smith |
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GATSU
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Stuart: The movies are actually successful there, at least by Marvel movies released in Japan standards. And they got tons of toys, too. Plus, I've been seeing JP users showing interest in The Avengers movies on Twitter, just because of Iron Man.
mdo: I will agree with you on one thing, though. That Japanese live-action Sailor Moon looks just as goofy as that DiC pilot. So if they really wanna remake it in a U.S. version, I say have a blast. |
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bravetailor
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Spielberg would be one of the very worst choices to direct something like this. Meh, I'm not into live action adaptations of anime/manga, especially Hollywood live action. I'd rather they not do this at all, but it seems Hollywood is all about taking existing franchises these days, instead of creating their own. |
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GATSU
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brave: He's not directing, and Minority Report was ok. Not really an interesting story in the first place, but that's not his fault.
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