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PantsGoblin
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Agreed. Stuff like this only draws more attention. Not that I have a problem with that.
I think it's more the fact that this show is garnering a lot of attention causing it to be noticed, rather than the content. I've seen content on this level being aired in Japan before. Difference was no one noticed or cared before. |
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naruto fan 09812
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PantsGoblin
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Probably the first person on the internet I've seen who doesn't know what porn is. Last edited by PantsGoblin on Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:13 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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DmonHiro
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Easy, tiger!!!! May I recommend buying some non-bunchable panties? You don't watch much anime do you, cause I've seen far worse than that. I belive you are refering to the OVA, since the TV has not been aired yet. The precedent I was referring to is the fact that pressure from a certain group can cause things to be taken off the air. This case is FAR from closed, as other stations will air the show, and it's going to be streamed FOR FREE over the internet anyway. And who the hell gave YOU the possition of censor? PS no.1: what you meant was "they tried to DISGUISE a porno" PS no.2: "a real LEGITIMATE show"....is a pleonasm PS no.2: Buy a grammar book.....it's cheap Last edited by DmonHiro on Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:09 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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KublaiKhan
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Wow, this is the first time I've visited these forums, and I had to register to comment on this. Have you even read Kodomo no Jikan? I think you need to look up the definition of porn. Ecchi is not porn. Kodomo no Jikan is an ecchi series, and even then, it's about a one-sided love from a gradeschooler to her teacher. It is not the other way around where any pedophilia is being committed. Think before you speak, and if you're all about free speech as you said you were in a previous post, then ANYTHING is free speech. There is no "too far." EDIT:The free speech comment I made was about USA. I don't exactly know what the laws concerning free speech are in Japan, but from what they show on TV, I'm assuming they're pretty lax. Last edited by KublaiKhan on Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:08 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Miho
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I wonder, if the characters in Kodomo no Jikan were all 10 years older would it still be innappropiate for TV? I've seen shows with much worse fanservice than KnJ and they were still aired on television with no problems...
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Rin Tohsaka
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Nice boat.
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Terrestrial_Cel
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Like others have mentioned, I would like to know the "circumstances" that make this show un-airable. Does anyone know? I'm guessing children in H situations/pedophilia... I don't support content of that kind and it makes me uncomfortable (if that is the reason). However when incredibly violent anime is airable without fuss, while stations are pulling this show off the air left and right, it sounds like typical standards hypocrisy.
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CCSYueh
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I think Mr. Metzger (Alan?) thought the same before he got in trouble. It's been awhile so I'm fuzzy on the details, but he tried standing on Free Speech to promote White Supremacy & when some kid got killed in Oregon or Washington, the family managed to tie it back to Metzger's little newsletters. Back when it was fresh & he was screaming bloody murder about his rights being violated, I believe he was talking filing bankruptcy to get out of the civil judgement. There's that whole "Yelling fire in a crowded theater" thing. And slander will land you in trouble. "Free Speech" has limits. Different people have different definitions of porn. You & I may not agree, but I know my 77 yr old mother-in-law would probably call Nymphet porn. Don't forget how long these deals take to get put together. As I recall when Full Moon Sagoshite was animated, there was only one volume out which is why there are so many difs between the manga & the anime. When Nymphet was pitched as an anime, how far had the story progressed? Businessmen are busy guys. They probably didn't keep an eye on the animation, & then the climate is turning conservative (witness all the manga sweeps done in the name of protecting innocent children from smut-ban sexy shojo), so yeah, maybe they bit off more than they could chew. It'll be released on dvd. The controversy will likely help it. People who planned to watch it on tv & not buy the dvds will be more likely to buy the dvds which is good for the studio. If all the fans are right & it's innocent-no harm. If the people against this title are right, this probably isn't the end of everything. The only real problem would be if the reactionary types get the manga cancelled & there seems to be no danger of that so there's really no problem. The manga is being produced & published. The anime has been made & will see the light of day. I swear this isn't the first time I've seen this--haven't we had a few instances of a director going too far-further than the studio intended- & having to cut a film? Why do we see "Director's cut" all the time? |
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Maidenoftheredhand
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School Days and Higurashi were both canceled because of violent content. Anyways I have absolutely no interest in Kodomo no Jikan and dislike the type of show immensely. However, I am still against this type of censorship. It's not like people are forced to watch it. |
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DmonHiro
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I agree with the post by CCSYueh. Very well said nee-san
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maus
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I'm not shocked by what happened to the TV airing of 'Nymphet'.
The thing is that Nymphet is too dangerous to broadcast. I don't want to sound patronizing, but it has a corrupting influence on certain people. And with certain people I mean adults like you and me. It's true that the love/obsession of the leading character is one-sided in Kojikan and that the teacher tries to ignore it, but the manga has a danger in depicting the girl as a sexual being for the reader. I know I am not aroused by a pre-pubescent female body, but I can't speak for all people who buy the manga or watch it on tv. The anime and manga are making it normal for us to see children as sexual beings and I find that that is not a good thing. I think it was a sane decision of the two broadcast companies to cancel the airing. |
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Talon87
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Whether you're in favor of or against stories like Kodomo no Jikan, these recent cancellations should tell you one thing: Japan is not so different from the West after all. It gets really tiresome when people on either side of the Kodomo no Jikan debate keep arguing things like "while it may be unacceptable in America, it's perfectly acceptable in Japan" (the pro argument) or "just because it's acceptable in Japan doesn't make it right" (the anti argument). Well, you're both wrong, it looks like: it looks like even in Japan this show is so unacceptable it's being pulled off the air left and right.
In light of these recent cancellations, I suggest we all quit saying that KnJ's subject matter is widely acceptable -- even well-liked -- material in the eyes of most Japanese. Clearly, the forces behind the cancellations beg to differ, as do their patrons to whom they cater. Does that make KnJ wrong, just because several Japanese broadcasters are having second thoughts about it? No, not necessarily. We each have to decide for ourselves based on the subject material and not some suit's actions whether or not this show is kosher. Somebody mentioned "direct to DVD" releases of KnJ. That would be really interesting considering what a loyal following it has and how profitable it would be for the production studio (to be able to cut out the advertising and broadcast middlemen and just rake in pure profits). Makes me wonder if more companies won't start doing this and just start releasing things direct to DVD with one or two sample episodes available for free download on the corporate website. Oh well, going a bit off-topic. 
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Zac
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This isn't censorship. Nobody is censoring anything. The station made a decision not to broadcast material they didn't approve of. That's just a business decision. To be frank, I'm surprised anyone is actually shocked that there's a backlash against this kind of material. It's controversial to say the very least, and it's been growing in popularity among Japan's otaku culture for a while now. The show that finally pushes it too far gets yanked for pushing it too far, and everyone screams and cries about censorship and free speech? The television station does not have an obligation to air whatever material is handed to them. It's not a violation of your free speech rights if Fox News doesn't air your youtube video of you dancing around naked screaming swear words. |
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v1cious
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if by that you mean it's never coming, then yes. |
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