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Stampeed Valkyrie
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Whoa.. so much Delta dislike...
I can't say I disagree I stopped watching Delta after episode 7, never hooked me and I gave it 7 episodes just because it was Macross. So 2nd half was worse eh? looks like I made the right call. I will eventually go back and re-watch the whole thing.. can't be any worse then M7.. right??? A new Macross series is always something to look forward to.. I prefer the Original TV series as well... I liked M+, and M0. Macross 2 was  ... and M7 was a chore to sit through and watch (though it picked up later on). Frontier took awhile to grow on me and I didn't like it at first.
New fans... start with Froniter! seriously then work your way back.. Macross Plus, Zero, DYRL, TV. No particular order but Frontier is a good jump in point. |
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TarsTarkas
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You'll have to look to the Robotech novelizations for that. Of course, that is not canon to Macross. |
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Lowlife187
 Posts: 156 Location: New Macross City |
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They need to focus on the military/fighter jet aspect a little more. The idol part is important, but not all there is. We need something more Macross Plus again. Even just more Frontier would be great.
Second, WE DEMAND YOKO KANNO COME BACK! Kanno was the heart of both Plus and Frontier in her music vision. They tied the shows to the characters. I listen to her work almost every day (macross and other titles) I do have a horrible feeling that we will get Delta season 2. the last episode did leave too much hanging. it need either a movie or another season to warp things up. Prepare yourself. |
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ZeetherKID77
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Oh boy, another series we'll never get because Harmony Gold are smegheads!
When will that stain of a company just go belly up already, they seriously can't have much in terms of finances... |
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exilekiss
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As so many have said, Macross Delta was probably THE worst Macross series ever made.
* Awful, generic Story. * Instead of 1 Singer, they go with a 5-Person Idol Group.
* Generic, bland Music. Just awful. * Terrible Mecha Fights. When a 30+ YEAR OLD anime (Macross: Do You Remember Love?) has BETTER Mech Battles than this new anime, you know it sucks. 
* Recycled Plot Points: In the original Macross (and how many others), key "older mentor figure" dies in battle (Roy Fokker (RIP)). Shoji Kawamori and company are so lazy they recycle the same tragedy again in Delta?! Seriously? Except it was with ZERO EMOTION. * The main hero Hayate gets into a fight with a SEA CAT. WTH?! Seriously? Kawamori, is this the best you can do?!
Easily one of the most generic, bland Anime I've seen in so long. Macross is dead, unless they get staff that actually CARES for the series. |
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jdnation
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Thanks! I have the original Manga Entertainment OVA Dual audio DVDs of Macross Plus along with the sub only movie edition. I'd really love to get a legit blu ray version of Zero. I find it interesting that Gundam Thunderbolt is very akin to comparisons with Macross Plus and people prefer the more adult, military focused, less idol focused Macross in general, though the younger Japanese audiences are the main market. But considering that Gundam manages to cater specific series to various audiences, I wish Macross too utilized this strategy more. TV series with the pop idols and colourfulness. And on the side OVA and film projects for older, more serious content and drama. |
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FenixFiesta
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I don't think we need as grimdark as a "Gundam Thunderbolt" macross series, but a "straight shooter" retelling like Gundam the Origin can work where it recognizes that war does indeed suck but knows when to inject moments of fun or pop music power songs (sort of like the first Macross film Do You Remember Love?). Grimdark retelling does not make the content "more mature" and also it does not guarantee success. |
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TarsTarkas
Posts: 5829 Location: Virginia, United States |
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Well, they are a real estate company too. So if their media side is doing poorly, the other side will keep everything afloat. Robotech board games are still being sold in stores, so there is that also. And with the ongoing Hollywood interest, really they would be fools to sell. I know it is the fashionable thing to bash Harmony Gold, but the Japanese are not exactly innocent either. It was the internal Japanese issues that brought about the problems with Harmony Gold. |
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Desslok
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Man, that sucks to hear that Delta was so bad. I was thinking of picking up the discs from CDJapan as I imported the Yamato 2202 discs, get them at the same time to cut down on shipping. Good thing I found out it wasn't worth it before I started picking up the series 70 bucks a shot.
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vision33r
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Kawamori will make a lot of money with Delta, because of Walkure. He makes nothing with Frontier selling just toys and DVDs and most of you Americans pirating his stuff and only buying toys.
With Walkure he has a rising idol group selling music CDs, concerts, and even more idol material. With Frontier, May'n eventually broke contract and did her own career. Walkure will be controlled exclusively by Kawamori until the members decide to leave. Can't wait to see Walkure perform. |
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FenixFiesta
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I take it your argument is "American watchers have no right to criticize the show because you didn't pay for it", I suppose it is a valid statement, but just as well an experience to watch any media costs the difficult to measure quantity known as "time", myself and many other viewers spent several hours to watch the events of Macross Delta unfold and it cost personal time to do so, there were many other time consuming tasks or retreats that would have likely been a better alternative than watching Delta but instead we did watch in the hopes to be entertained and engaged by a story considered worth our viewing habits. You may continue to refer to Americans as "filthy pirating wretches" but that does not remove our unfettered willingness to state our personal opinions on a show that we did in fact observe, be they opinions of good or ill. |
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Ruben Browning
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Delta == complete fukk up.
Mirage was one of the very few things worthwhile on the whole run. The fact they insulted her legacy and character as much as it happened, it's the most visual clue of this disaster. And don't even begin with the shitty music... |
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