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Hentai_JP
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Oops. Page didn't load for me for the first time and I just closed it and went looking in other places... well consider sankaku as an alternate retelling. 
Sorry for the excessive linking but for those who want to read more about bake here is an interesting post. Vendredi talks about "supernatural nature of the plot" and where Nadeko's problem lies. Again, optional reading which I find to be thoughtful and constructive. |
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Mike On Top
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^ I thought it was obvious from the image of the roped sacred tree. And in the previous episode we had Suruga [as in name connotation - "torture bondage"] hanging on ropes, [which is almost a copy image of SZS opening in S1, I believe]. Anyway, I was certain they wouldn't give up on the bondage so soon. The tree looked like a grand voodoo doll, with all that the blood and scattered snake flesh. Even thought that the bumpy motions actually represent some sort of "restriction", especially for Kanbaru.
I knew I saw something different than the provisional anime references in this episode: 
And since they asked, a feedback from one viewer 
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Kruszer
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Personally, I think that's exactly it right there. At least that how the whole hitting on him thing started anyway. Whether that's still the reason why she continues to do it now is the question. 
Also acording to the Chinese zodiac the monkey doesn't usually get along with the snake (although it's main enemy is the horse). This being a supernatural themed anime it could be why she wasn't feeling well at the snake shrine. 
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dtm42
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I'm not so sure that's the entire story. If we can believe Suruga, Senjougahara asked her to act as cute as can be during the trip. Not to mention that Suruga was sent to retrieve Koyomi at the end of episode eight. Judging by what Tsubasa was saying in the bookstore (which we can pretty much take as truth), Senjougahara is worried that he isn't as into her as she is in him. So I'm thinking that Senjougahara is testing his resolve by encouraging Suruga to hit on him. If he can resist, then she can rest a little easier. Of course this shouldn't be too hard, because despite Suruga's attractiveness and flirtatious nature she obviously isn't in love with Koyomi. Therefore, he shouldn't be able to be fooled or seduced. Also, with the pornography, I question if she even saw what he bought. Yes, it is possible that he slipped up and didn't notice her in the store during the (short) period she was stalking him. But it is equally likely she just accused him of having porn without actually knowing that for sure, and then watched his reaction carefully. It's a classic trick, and usually works because of statistical probability (i.e. he's a teenage Japanese boy who doesn't seem to have a computer), and because most people overreact when they think they are caught. Did anyone notice that she repeatedly claimed she knew what his fetishes were, yet until the end she didn't actually say what those fetishes were? He dug his own hole. |
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randomanimefan
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Well, the new OP is out. Kinda what I was expecting, and not at all what I expecting. Very catchy.
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ninjapet
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The new opening is cute, like really cute >.> and catchy I want a full copy of the song
Any way great episode as always just one thing spoiler[Seems like almost half of the removing the snake scene was cut due to time problems. I mean I know that stuff like this has happened before but this was like the climax of the ark and parts where cut when it was important I hope the DVD releases fix that. ] |
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Hentai_JP
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Episode 10.
I absolutely love OP. Its so cute and 'sexy', great vocals too. As for the rest of it... It's time to bash Suggestion to SHAFT: drop silly SZS, with already desperate quality, and move your people to Bake. 
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ninjapet
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well you have to think besides Bake there doing SZS (that already got another OVA green-lit) the Negima! OVDs and now the movie for it, along with that other show thats going to air in the fall.
I like SZS and Negima! (I haven't checked out that other show, it's on CR so I really should check it out >.> ) Everything will be fixed with the DVD releases, so hold your horses for now on the slide show stuff |
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Mike On Top
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Oh, man.
This arc is just weak, shallow, and liveless as any other bathhouse episode. At its best, it takes time seeding the premises to Tsubasa Cat story. Opening - Hidamari no craP. Actually, all the rest remained forcefully infantile and voyeuresque, and, really, no brainer. Still, excellent points for Kanbaru and Meme. Araragi started getting the picture, as it seems. |
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DuskyPredator
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This episode definetly had weaknesses, it would be nice to think that the episode could be more animated, the stills and black/red screens were not nearly as artistic as previous. The lack of animation might realy make people point out this episode as being the weakest, and it was half an arc. kind of sad when you look back on the job of Senjougahara and her crab.
I kind of liked the voice of Nadeko in the episode it appears in a way to be a reference to a snake as it kind of has a soft hiss to it. Swimsuit was unnecesary but otherwise is quite pleasing, I checked out the op on youtube for a better picture, Shaft realy know how to do an op. Episode was kind of love and hate, but I wonder if Tsundure-chan will be pissed about Araragi's actions, at least Suruga made the right decision. If past episodes is anything to go by, he will be hanging out with Nadeko for some reason and will come across Tsubasa's problem. Lets hope that the cuts here were so we could be blown apart by the next episodes. |
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egoist
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I can't agree there. Mayoi Snail was worse, half of the episodes were about Araragi and Hachikuji's quarrel. Compared to that, Nadeko Snake was complete within only 2 episodes. We got to see a cute character and a good opening. Background info on Araragi's intentions, the reason as to why he needs his blood spoiler[sucked by Shinobu] and a better understanding about what Oshino actually thinks about Araragi.
What would be a smart opening for you then? I'm surprised at how many openings they showed us during only 10 episodes and all of them were well made, compared to that take a look at 24-26 episodes anime which starts with a really nice opening and then change to a really crappy one half way through. |
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randomanimefan
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I thought Episode 10 was just fine, actually.
The last few minutes did seem a little "slideshow"-ish but they kept in the key frames, audio and the great-as-always voice acting. I can "forgive" the lack of animation since SHAFT intentionally expanded the anime's run to 15 episodes. If they only had the budget for 12 to start with, I doubt they got 25% more money. I still haven't noticed any big dropoffs in quality or consistency. The arc was a little "simple," but the standard "twist" was still nicely done. Also, given the story progression Nadeko will make appearances sometime in the next 5 eps. Nadeko was the most "invisible" of the "main characters" for the four arcs so far, but that's by design, and also, well, we all know the real main character is Araragi. The "point" of this episode, IMHO, was that spoiler[Araragi had to learn some hard lessons, it hasn't changed his core personality but he's figuring out that he can (and should) only do so much.] I thought SHAFT did a good job there. Also, one thing I'm noticing around the Interwebs...some people seem to be "overthinking" the show, maybe even the source material. Me, I just think it's fun. I don't think Bakemonogatari was intended to be all that profound, and that's fine by me. |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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It'll be fine. Same thing happened with Moon Phase and the second battle with Count Kinkel and a few parts of the final battle. Everything got fixed up all nice and shiny for the DVD release then, no reason it wouldn't work out that way again. |
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ninjapet
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most of Shafts anime have that problem (I think?)
everything gets fixed by the time a DVD is out, they just need the extra time |
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Hentai_JP
Posts: 605 Location: Toronto, ON |
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So.. it happened before huh. I am a bit relieved. SHAFT shows much love for Bake, but this episode showed stills, 'red', 'black' or 'under construction' excuses all over. @Mike On Top. Too bad you dislike this arc so much. I'd defend it as before, but I don't think it will change your mind as you seem to be dead set against anything Nadeko related. Oh and... I love Nadeko's opening sequence. Sooo adorable and cute. Did I say this already... oh well... I guess I'll go watch more Shugo Chara! for complete overdoze of cuteness. |
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