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hakojo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009
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Location: NE Ohio.
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:02 pm
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RedSwirl wrote: |
The main appeal of Ghost in the Shell isn't the fact that it takes place in The Far East at all. The actual city the stories are set in is rarely even mentioned. I'll be satisfied if they can just make a good cyberpunk cop story period. |
I agree. However, I don't think that Hollywood would be willing to take a chance on something so deep and introspective (and really, while it's definitely adult, I don't think it's nearly as boob-y and violent as a lot of people hold it up to be) in this economy, and that's the heart of the problem - they're going to make a cyberpunk action movie, not Ghost in the Shell. The comparison to The Matrix is valid, but since The Matrix is a bit of a joke to a lot of people now, it doesn't exactly bode well for this film.
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YotaruVegeta
Joined: 02 Jul 2002
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Location: New York
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:03 pm
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I just want it to be GOOOD! Promise me this and that, but I'll wait for the trailer. Lots of people make promises piled high to the sky, but it's meaningless. Movie folk are always talking in hyperbole.
This person (guy? girl? I've never heard of this person) has a short IMDB, but that's an impressive list of titles! That makes me slightly optimistic for this.
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firedragon54738
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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Location: wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:36 pm
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It mite be good if they dont crap all over the manga and the anime like the did with the Dragonball movie but I give it a 60% chance of just sucking ass Hollywood cant make a good remake of any thing
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egoist
Joined: 20 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:44 pm
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60%? Thanks a lot, I'm sure the producers are greatly pleased by hearing such great news. Besides Spielberg is involved, and I don't really care if they're loyal to the anime/manga, so I'm sure I'll enjoy it. Too bad others won't even if the only change is the color of Major's panties.
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ArthurFrDent
Joined: 05 Aug 2008
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:45 pm
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I'll simply direct you all to Aeon Flux... and hope I win the lottery. There is always a slim chance that ground will be broken once. again.
ETA, wait, what color does she normally wear? :devil:
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egoist
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:01 pm
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ArthurFrDent wrote: | ETA, wait, what color does she normally wear? :devil: |
Flashy pink with white butterflies, combined with a set of cowboy jacket and snow boots. Not to forget about the astronaut hat and Dragon Ball power specs.
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Mr. sickVisionz
Joined: 28 Oct 2007
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:15 pm
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I hope it's more like Stand Alone Complex and nothing like the first film. SAC, especially 2nd Gig, is like the perfect future cop story with a lot of political intrigue, high tech stuff, light techno babble and great action.
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YotaruVegeta
Joined: 02 Jul 2002
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:25 pm
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Redswirl, do we have to do the "this grabbed this idea from this place"? The Matrix was not a new idea, and Ghost in the Shell has the same themes as Shirow's other work, Appleseed, just delivered differently. None of this stuff is "original."
It's all about how you tell a story, not what story you're telling. Show me anything you like and I'll bet the story has been told long before your parents, grandparents, or great grandparents were born.
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edzieba
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:48 pm
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RedSwirl wrote: | Matrix [...] heavy cyberpunk philosophy |
*snrk*
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mckg1
Joined: 24 Dec 2009
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Location: From Puerto Rico living in Japan
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:07 pm
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I want this movie to be a hit, but i also want it to maintain the story as it is. I guess thats asking too much huh.I hope it maintains the characteristics of the main characters.
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TatsuGero23
Joined: 18 Nov 2008
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Location: Sniper Island, USA (It's in your heart!)
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:10 pm
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God... there is gonna be so much reverse criticism for this movie from the general public. "It's like the Matrix..." "They are totally ripping of the Matrix" "Hey! I've seen that before. In the Matrix..." "That was the coolest thing I've ever seen!... When I saw it on the Matrix." Oh man, I can't see this getting past the "Matrix Wall" unless the trailer can really wow people and they don't show off any of the things the Matrix borrowed from GitS.
And really people still like the Matrix movie. Its that the trilogy is what they don't like. Most people will say "The first one was good, the second had good action at the least, and the third sucked because who wants a f***ing boring ass superman fight and what is going on!?"
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Katane
Joined: 13 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:16 pm
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Well who's going to be Kusanagi is what I want to know. In any case I'm confident that if anyone could pull this one off Spielberg's the man for this job. I got a good feeling about this one and I can't wait.
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R315r4z0r
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:48 pm
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I think Spielberg is the kind of person to appreciate the depth of presentation aside from simply the plot line.
I trust him enough to not let it go to mindless action with a weak angle. He knows how to use imagery to tell a story beyond the plot of the movie.
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CareyGrant
Joined: 18 Nov 2009
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:21 am
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Let's be honest: the movie we as fans want to see isn't going to be made.
Look for: Gaijin in the Shell
The good news is: WE ALREADY HAVE SEVERAL AWESOME CGI MOVIES AND TWO LONG RUNNING SERIES that have told the story our way.
Bad News: Hollywood's all about money, especially in recent events.
With Hollywood's Monkey-See-Monkey-Do attitude, and Avatar breaking two billion for 2 hours of tech/3D heavy picture with a substandard/mediocre plot & writing... it'll be about the money and recapturing that kind of success with another Sci-Fi, tech/3D heavy thrill ride. Studios now are clamoring to add 3D to their movies as we speak.
While I'm excited about Steven Spielberg's involvement, I'd bet the best we can hope for is a Minority Report meets Ghost in the Shell.
Casting: How many Japanese (or even Japanese-looking) females in Hollywood are there? How many fit the Major's description? Or even the rest of Section 9? Me, I'm drawing a blank. But I'm betting the studio's are gonna want big names to fill seats, so expect disappointment.
It's Gaijin in the Shell, people.
Of course, Spielberg could surprise us all and deliver HUGE for both the fans and mass audiences, but being able to do so is a VERY rare thing. What's more, the fan base for GitS is tiny compared to comic books in the US (e.g. Batman, Superman, etc.), so pleasing a tiny fan base over the audience isn't looking good.
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Bell02
Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:39 am
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I had a dream about this movie a few weeks ago (Ghost in the Shell) and an interesting way to make it work to appeal to both audiences (Japanese and existing fans, and American newcomers):
Center it around a veteran from the end of the last world war, he completely injures his body and is forced to use a full prosthetic body and the hospital assigns a former star patient, Makoto, to get him use to life in the body. As the person gets use to the body, he becomes distasteful with society and the life, and radicalizes himself by getting involved in some terror organization; to which in the end, he is stopped by Section 9 and his former friend Makoto. (Only just learning of her profession; Characters like Aramaki and Batou could have more minor roles with others making more cameos)
I think it would be interesting because it would put in the psychological questions from the movies, and establish itself as its own self-contained, self-explained movie, highlighting the origins of the main character (Makoto), show her as more of a new officer getting use to post war life herself, while still feel completely new to existing fans and remaining intelligent. Just that idea got me really excited for the potential of a live action movie.
Hopefully the writers just realize that special effects will only go so far (but for this type of movie, it is still extremely important), but when combined with a thought provoking plot to reel in critics they will have a big hit. (And people will see it not caring that it is based off of anime or not)
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