Forum - View topicANNCast Classic: The Life and Kime of Geneon, USA
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penguintruth
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Hm, I always thought more highly of the earlier episodes of Part II. Once you start getting into the fifties and sixties (beyond the dubbed episodes), that's when you start running into some really bizarre and terrible material (though I love the insane episode where Lupin is throwing penguins with parachutes out of a blimp). At least until towards the end, just before the Miyazaki episodes. Of course, the first couple of episodes are pretty rough, but I like some of the schemes they use early on, like painting a van made of melted gold and smuggling it across the border (though it's a Goldfinger rip) or tricking Zenigata into thinking his plane has taken off when it's really just in a hanger and they're using effects. I definitely agree about the dub, though. The cast was golden, but the dub script took too many liberties. |
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superdry
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Actually, Best Buy usually had Geneon singles at $24.99 - still more expensive than ADV or Funi back in the day, but rarely were they priced at full MSRP. Though, yes, their boxsets were the most expensive and also least discounted at BB (I remember Ikkitousen being sold for $71.99 while the MSRP was like $79.99). But, TRSI and other anime retailers that held studio sales would hold them for Geneon. So, those were the times to actually really buy their stuff since it was at 40% off. |
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lem
 Posts: 734 Location: Land of trying to figure sht out |
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I've been viewing and buying my anime since 2000. To illustrate, I bought and still own every one of those titles mentioned in this podcast. I picked them up either as they were being released as singles, when they were still commonly available, and or before Geneon US ceased to exist as an R1 player. This was primarily from 2004 to 2008. To date I've managed to collect some 150 individual titles/series that were Geneon/started by Geneon/or somehow "Geneon". And you know what? I can't ever recall a time where I would've been inclined to say "Damn that Geneon, they're more expensive than their competitors". Why? Because they simply weren't. The only time I can even recall a Geneon single from anyone being more than their competitor was when it was sold as a "starter" set which was comprised of a dvd volume and an artbox, tin of some sorts or some other kinda catch me eff me. This could be something beyond the disc itself - Samurai Champloo came with a bandana, Requiem from the Darkness - glow in the dark pencil board, Strawberry Marshmallow - calendar, Black Lagoon - steel books, metal pencil boards, Zipang - mouse pad, R.O.D. - a figure, Burn-Up Scramble - fridge magnets, Trigun - steel books, a bullet, Armitage - the "lunch" box + figure, Utena - a T-shirt, Texhnolyze - lenticular pieces, etc.,etc., During that time period ALL singles could be had for about the same price. And this amount was roughly between 20 and 30 bucks. Dependent upon where one shopped. Regardless, any way you sliced this it was still an expensive proposition for a fan to own the physical media for a show. A completed show anyway. To say anyone of those R1 players at the time was more expensive than another is simply not true. |
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medama_oyaji
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I only started listening within the last year or so, so I really enjoyed this episode that I missed! I think it's a great idea to reupload these on your hiatus weeks.
My only request would be some indication in the description when this episode originally aired, so those of us hearing it for the first time can put it in that context. Thanks! 
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victor viper
 Posts: 630 Location: The deep south |
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What you've said is true to a point. I know that most Pioneer/Geneon releases were very close to MSRP at Best Buy. A Best Buy close to me had a couple copies of When They Cry volume 1 with artbox sitting on the shelf literally for years marked at full retail ($34.99 maybe?). Heck, they might still be there. But, there were other brick and mortar retailers that offered the occasional deep discount on Pioneer/Geneon stuff. Some of the Sam Goody/FYE/Suncoast stores had sales where Pioneer/Geneon titles were pretty cheap. In addition, they usually had decent prices on Geneon titles right after they were released. As a matter of fact, I was just was looking through my shelves, and I found a Shana volume 6 DVD still in the shrinkwrap with an "regular price $29.99, on sale-$22.99" pricetag. I'll have to get around to finishing that show one of these years... |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
 Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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No problem, good idea. This one was released originally in Fall 2009. |
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noblesse oblige
 Posts: 280 Location: Florida |
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I'm really glad ANN decided to repost this for new fans. This is one of the more informative podcasts you guys have done, and one of the few I have saved on my phone. Re-listening to it has got me thinking about the "anime bubble" as people like to refer to it. What caused it? The topic was glanced over from the Geneon perspective, but I would love to know more. Why were the projections so overestimated? Were they expecting shows with no tv presence to sell as well as the shows that aired on American tv? Was it just a perfect storm of anime titles suited to the american market coming out at the same time that raised expectations to an unreasonable level?
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GhostOfSide3
 Posts: 75 Location: Memphis, TN |
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Ahh, a re-issued episode. I was actually planning to go through ANNcast's backlog of episodes eventually (when I got caught up to AnimeWorldOrder's 2009 episodes, yeah I have a weird podcast backlog) but this is fine too since I haven't listened to this yet.
I hope more of Geneon's catalog gets released eventually. Like Dual Parallel Trouble Adventures, New Getter Robo, Hajime no Ippo, Harlock, Tetsujin-28, and other interesting those that are severely out of print. Now I want to watch Heat Guy J.. Really enjoyed this episode. Great job from 2009, dudes. |
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StudioToledo
 Posts: 847 Location: Toledo, U.S.A. |
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Does anyone know a good mirror that's left of it? I'm feeling a little misty right now and wanted to check it out but can't seem to find it now. |
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
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Is this it?
http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/tv+movies/anime-manga/ |
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StudioToledo
Posts: 847 Location: Toledo, U.S.A. |
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Could be, haven't found any MIDI's yet there. |
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