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Malintex Terek
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Why are people so incensed over the Naruto anime fillers? The latest buzz every week on the large Naruto related forums are that "Kishimoto's losin' it" and his manga may have possibly "jumped the shark" way back when in the Sannin fight.
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one3rd
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It's because the Encyclopedia relies almost entirely on user input. If there were only a handful of people doing everything, it wouldn't be nearly as comprehensive as it is because of the enormous amount of work that it would require. As it is, the Encyclopedia staff are working very hard to keep it in good condition. If they had to do absolutely everything, it would have taken many more years for it to get to where it is now. |
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coldspider
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If the news is true,this is good to hear.I don't read the manga so I've been waiting until the anime got back on track.And I seriously doubt the fillers are going to end,only this time around the fillers need to be done right.They need to be peppered into the the series altering between canon and filler,as opposed to going into LONG filler arcs.
Now the question is what ShoPro is going to do about the fillers' broadcasting future.Would they skip the majority of the filler arc,a la Funimation/first eps of DBGT? Or do they plan on rushing though the fillers as fast as possible? Maybe going for week night premieres for the time being,and then going back to weekends when the series gets back on track. |
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Vortextk
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I don't see why America should be any different. If the Japanese milk the show, I don't see why we wouldn't. In the end, isn't pokemon like 95% filler?
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hhv94
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I am hoping the people in charge of the site can edit and take out the fake episode titles that some jerks decided to put up as fun. Considering how fans of the anime where getting their hopes up. I'm hoping that the titles 200-201 are correct. There have been solid rumors that Naruto fillers will end at 199.
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cyrax777
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yeah well there were also rumors of it ending back in the 160's then the 170's hell one of the subbers used to sub in a X more weeks till the filler ends. im at the point were well when it happens it happens. |
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SharinganEyes92
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I personally have taken time off the fillers (stopped around 160) to watch and explore other anime titles. Watching the fillers is just a waste of time. I'm also almost 100% sure that the fillers aren't going to end at 200, but I will save that for a later post (don't have time right now) with research and backup information, so look forward to that. You can't believe the rumors, because back a couple weeks ago, people thought the fillers would end with 182, but look at where we are now.
I did find this off of a fansub distribution website, though:
But take this with a grain of salt. They said the same thing about the fillers ending at 182. Once again, look at where we are now at episode 197. |
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Ataru
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I hope what Fun did, NEVER happens again. As for the end of the "dreaded" filliers, if it's true, yippie. If not, this isn't first time rumors has been wrong. However, I don't want to see then Encyclopedia episode listing change every other hour becasue someone thinks it's true and next guy thinks it's wrong. Leave it be for now. If it's wrong, it will be change, no doubt about that. |
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energydan
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It's because most of them comments are from users who just got into the manga. They were able to read 300 some chapters one right after another with little break. When they get caught up they have to wait each week like the rest of us, and they get impatient. So every week you get a bunch of "OMGZ itz ruined!" and then two weeks later they have to eat their words when things work themselves out or are better explained. |
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coldspider
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What's your point? The fact is that the first couple of episodes of GT aren't particularly good,GT doesn't good until the Bebi saga.The first eps weren't that bad per se,they just weren't that impressive.And since there weren't that many to begin with,Funi made the right decision to skip them. The general consensus about Naruto's fillers is that they're pretty damn bad.No one may care about the fillers in Japan,but there could be a very negative reaction here in the U.S. and create a Naruto backlash.There's no doubt in my mind that ShoPro will be approaching the fillers very carefully. And that's only taking the TV broadcast into consideration,DVD's are a whole other issue.ShoPro is going to have to come up with one hell of an incentive to get people to buy the fillers on DVD. |
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Kouji
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[quote="coldspider"][quote="Ataru"]
Viz and Cartoon Network aren't targetting the Naruto dub to Narutards who are obssesed with making comparisions between the manga and the anime; they're targetting the dub towards mainstream American kids and pre-teens who probably don't even know the manga exists let alone have read it. To those Naruto dubbies who know nothing about the original, the Naruto filler-ins will probably be more enjoyable to them because without any manga to compare it to, they'll be taking the episodes at face value and while they'll probably notice a decline in the creativity of the writing, it won't be as disastorous for them because they don't know that there's another "cooler" alternate version of Naruto out there, if that makes any sense. It's like watching a movie version of a book. If you watch the movie version first, chances are you're probably going to enjoy it more no matter what changes are made because you aren't familiar with the source material, but if you read the book first, you're going to be a lot more critical of the film adaptation because you already have a view in your mind of how the story should be told. And regardless of whether or not you hate the adaptation of the book, the adaptation is still going to make a lot of money and have its own fanbase because it'll wind up getting more publicity and exposure unless even the mainstream audiences hated the adaptation, too. What I don't get is if the Naruto filler-ins are as bad as people say they are, why do people continue to watch them? Every week I read a new thread posted at this forum of some Narutard whining about how sucky the latest filler-in is and then they start complaining about when the anime is going to return to the manga storyline yet despite the complaints people are still continuing to fansub the episodes. If you hate the Naruto filler-ins, then don't watch it and read your precious manga instead. It's like the dub. I always hear Narutards complaining about how much the latest dub episode sucked yet they continue to torture themselves by watching the latest dub episode every week. If Narutards continue to download the latest filler-in episode even though they bitched about the previous episode earlier, the filler-ins must not be that bad if they continue to repeat this process. But who says that Naruto will ever return to the manga plot? For all you know, they could never stop producing the anime-only plots and it doesn't look like they plan on stopping anytime soon or else they would've done so already if they were really that bad. |
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areaseven
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Is that why you decided to get yourself banned by jumping on the SPAM bandwagon?
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coldspider
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Jeez Kouji...
There's been dozens of threads created here in the past where people complain about Naruto's fillers.When the question of how the Japanese have reacted to the fillers comes up,the answer is that they generally don't care about the fillers.Regardless of how bad the hard core fans think they are.Someone compared the fillers to the likes of reruns in Japan,so that's why they don't care about them either way.It's like a "new-rerun" so to speak,it's not worth watching,but no one is really complaining either. Here in the U.S. however,it could be a total different story.The fillers can cause a negative backlash,and may cause people to stop watching the series,for awhile at least.When the fillers do come around,sticking to current format of weekend premieres would probably be a mistake.I think there's maybe a years worth of filler if there's a premiere once a week,and I doubt ShoPro/CN would want to lose a good chunk of their viewership for that length of time. So I wouldn't be surprised if ShoPro took a different approach specifically for the fillers.Which can be anything from skipping the majority of the filler arc,to rushing through the fillers by temporarily changing the format from weekend premieres,to weeknight premieres. |
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TranceLimit174
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I'm probably repeating myself but here I go again.
I'm one of those people who simply watched the anime without reading the manga so I never have really made a "wait they left that part out/ruined that part" comment. My issue with the filler as a fan is the fact that it just halts everything. There's obviously a story to be told, but instead of continuing on we get 70+ episodes of well...nothing. Look at it this way, that's 5-6 13 episode series, 3 26 episode series, and 1 1/2's worth of a 50/52 episode series. That's a lot of episodes folks. Now, it would be one thing if we had decent animation and scriptwriting but we don't even get that. The overall quality of this series hasn't just dropped, it's plummeted (note the fishbowl eyes on CENTRAL characters or Tsunade's Gendo Ikari trick). Really, if the quality of these episodes was seen in another series no one would even look at it. The only reason Naruto gets away with it is simply because it's Naruto. I'd forgive it if the latter or the former was on par but neither is. I am neither engaged in a story nor am I getting a nice dose of eye candy, Why did I/do I still watch? Well there's the simple reason of me being a completionist (gotta see all of it). I want to be able to say "I've seen all of Naruto." Sounds stupid to a lot of people, but it's a reason that makes sense to me at least. Another reason is/was the rumors that came out every few weeks. From whatever the source was, the idea that we had X many episodes left (at times it even got down 2 or 1 week). Granted each time it was met with disappointment, but still like other fans I was strung along because I figured "just a few more episodes wouldn't hurt." It's like the dollar on a string trick. You get close to it, and the moment you go for it the dollar is pulled away from you and you walk towards it again (same idea with the filler). The filler is also very out of place (I have the same issue with Bleach, but at least they kinda sorta tried to make it an overarching part of the show). It feels so disjointed and away from what Naruto previously was. Whenever the filler ends, it's basically gonna be a big chunk that can be just removed and forgotten (well, it won't be as I'm pretty sure this filler fiasco is a first and some sort of historical mark on anime). The filler has also perversed just about every character. It's as if any and all development thus far has been ignored. I know Naruto's not the smartest ninja in Konoha, but he's certainly not nearly as stupid as some filler episodes have made him out to be (now I know I'm repeating myself). I mean c'mon, you would think by now he would recogize Rock Lee. Also, I'm pretty sure Neji got over his whole "follow the mission and nothing else" mentality (those are the first two that jump to mind). As a side note to my last statement. Not only has character development been ignored, but there's also an incredible focus of characters. People say that fillers allow us to see some characters who normally don't get much screen time in action. However, I'm not seeing really seeing that. Being a Shikamaru fan, I can't recall a filler episode he's been in (but I'm glad as they would probably ruin him, I guess he's just too intelligent for the scriptwriters) unless you count the early filler episodes which I will admit were not that bad. The Sand Ninja are very popular so where are they? And others like Shino and Chouji have barely been in them, and when they are they hardly do anything besides fill space. Also, while I don't like her I know Sakura is supposed to be training but does that exclude her from missions? Hell Naruto's supposed to be training but that's not stopping him from showing up every week. I think by now it's not so much what the filler is as it is what it represents. It has basically stripped a good show from glory. Put it this way, would Star Wars have been just as great had after Empire George Lucas decided to make Luke and Co. go on a bunch of space faring adventures spanning another trilogy (with a major budget drop and him hiring others to write the stories) because he hadn't finished Jedi? Probably not. I'm not looking at Naruto in comparison to it's manga counterpart, but as a story. As a story and a show, the filler has dropped Naruto from being great to sub-par. The only reason I started reading the manga was because I was fed up and I wanted to know where things were going to go (but I will admit I now feel it's being dragged out). The bottom line is the fanbase feels let down. Now while I'm not defending the Narutards out there who will only support the free methods of experiencing Naruto, there has been something all Naruto fans who have experienced the filler have paid, and that's time. That's 1750 minutes, 875 hours roughly (unless my math is wrong) that has been devoted thus far to a single viewing of each filler episode (and this isn't counting the 135 previous episodes). While recreational, that is still a lot of time for an individual to spend. But you know what does my opinion matter? I don't contribute to Japanese ratings, the Japanese don't seem to care, and I'm watching the show for free. |
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silver_omicron
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Is the fact that manga comes out slower just the way it is? Or can it be said that the artists are being lazy? Because if you can manage 25 minutes of moving pictures more quickly then eighty pages of drawn panels, I'm not really sure what to think. |
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