Forum - View topicNEWS: Macross Delta TV Series to Premiere in Spring With Lagrange, Kaleido Star Composers
|
Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4 Next Note: this is the discussion thread for this article |
| Author | Message | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
kgw
 Posts: 1075 Location: Spain, EU |
|
|||||||
|
First, yeah. I haven't watched the preview episode, which I think almost nobody has done (unless they uploaded it to CR or Daisuki, have they done that?). I've seen the PV videos, read the description, the promotional material. Nothing in there says otherwise.
So there are TWO idols' group (for boys! and girls!*), with and I quote,
Yeah, maybe the two groups will remain in a background place and let Immelman hog all the action. But I doubt it. * this one don't sing... yet. |
||||||||
|
||||||||
Moroboshi-san
 Posts: 174 |
|
|||||||
I think it was Sasurai no Taiyō from 1971. |
||||||||
|
||||||||
|
karyuudo0127
Posts: 143 |
|
|||||||
|
I just finished watching this off of a torrent. I'm definitely NOT impressed at all with the preview first episode.
This Macross series is falling under the same AKB48 marketing model garbage that Japan otaku pervs have been buying into for years. It's really a pathetic state that Macross is in if they need to lean on that to sell a series. Even though the previous series Macross Frontier had it's moments of silliness and being over the top, there was at least a hint of something meaningful and realistic about the love triangle that was going on. I'm sure this series will do well, but it's just definitely not for me. |
||||||||
|
||||||||
|
karyuudo0127
Posts: 143 |
|
|||||||
Yeah basically it's AKB48 meets Macross which is a horrible combination. Oh well, there's always the next series... |
||||||||
|
||||||||
|
karyuudo0127
Posts: 143 |
|
|||||||
I seriously doubt they will ever go and touch the old series again. Each Macross series might have the odd character or maybe someone who's related to a previous character. But a full on sequel, I doubt very much we'll ever see that. |
||||||||
|
||||||||
Rederoin
 Posts: 1427 Location: Europa |
|
|||||||
T Its already up on the internet, so I don't that number is that low among Macross fans. |
||||||||
|
||||||||
|
johnnysasaki
Posts: 928 |
|
|||||||
there's also the fact that,according to supplementary materials, Hikaru,Misa and Minmay have disappeared while travelling the galaxy (which was both Hikaru and Misa's honeymoon trip and Minmay's tour. ) and no one has ever heard about their status again.Supposedly nothing bad happened to them,it's just that they may have gone way too further in the galaxy. I don't think they will want to change the canon just like that so they could shove the classic characters in a new anime. Considering I'm huge Macross fan,I'm looking forward this new entry,but thanks to Harmony Gold,once again we won't be allowed to support this new anime. Man,fudge Harmony Gold.Just die already and let us enjoy Macross... |
||||||||
|
||||||||
walw6pK4Alo
 Posts: 9322 |
|
|||||||
|
I'll be watching the episode later, but I hope the show remembers that not only idols and music make Macross, but also space and transforming mecha. I'm fine with the overabundance of cutesy idols (Ranka was enough, and I'd prefer more like Sheryl), but it can't be the only thing they push. And With no Yoko Kanno I'm not sure if the score and incidental music, which were amazing in Frontier, will hold up here.
|
||||||||
|
||||||||
Hoppy800
 Posts: 3331 |
|
|||||||
If a game comes out based on this I'll import it (if not I hope Makina gets a figure or her VF gets a model kit) and you may also want to consider importing at least merchandise, don't let the tyrants at Harmony Gold make you not want to support the anime. |
||||||||
|
||||||||
|
bumbayker
Posts: 24 |
|
|||||||
Not even close. You're quick to dismiss Delta just because it doesn't tickle your fancy since it provides a new and different direction compared to what previous Macross series usually delivers. It attempts to break away from some of the franchise's known conventions yet still retaining its identity as Macross. There isn't a problem with idol singers riding into battle when their level of technology can handle it and knowing how crazy Macross can sometimes become. Its really no different from Basara flying into combat with just his guitar and unarmed Valkyrie. I honestly don't see your point (if there even was one) that Frontier having "a hint of something meaningful and realistic" compared to Delta when Frontier also had similar levels of fantasy and ridiculousness. I'm not trying to convince you to like Delta but know that a renown and decades spanning anime franchise such as Macross has to continue to evolve and cater to the current generation in order to survive else face stagnation and obscurity. |
||||||||
|
||||||||
penguintruth
 Posts: 8461 Location: Penguinopolis |
|
|||||||
|
Wow, this is some hot garbage. Talk about taking an aesthetic too far. From the terrible CG to the hardcore pandering, it's like they've dropped all pretenses of this being a Macross show and have gone full "idol superheroes" like other shows. Stop hurting yourself, Macross franchise. We're worried about you. Come home.
|
||||||||
|
||||||||
|
Cptn_Taylor
Posts: 925 |
|
|||||||
Macross went off the deep end after Macross II more than 20 years ago. Kawamori is a hack. He might be a genius mecha designer (praise where it's due), but he's the George Lucas of anime when it comes to storytelling. Macross simply has no future in his hands as a science fiction epic. And this new Delta does nothing but confirm it. At this point in time Macross is used to sell airplanes, loli figures and music cd's. The story went out the window ages ago. |
||||||||
|
||||||||
Mr Adventure
 Posts: 1598 |
|
|||||||
|
I gotta disagree there, I'm a big fan of Zero and Frontier. I thought Frontier in particular did an amazing job of threading the needle between scifi action and music idols. I hold out hope for Delta to suprise me, but I fear the needle is going to swing to far toward 7 this go around.
And the CGI/2D integration in the trails is.... Kinda real bad. This is 2015, this should be old hat by now. |
||||||||
|
||||||||
|
karyuudo0127
Posts: 143 |
|
|||||||
With Macross 7, Basara going into battle just to sing was quite ridiculous. I honestly felt him doing that seemed far too forced. I agree with you that all Macross's series have similar levels of fantasy and ridiculousness... but from what I've seen so far with Delta, it just takes it to another level. The whole AKB48 idol crap is a formula that should die a horrible death in Japan. Perhaps it's because I have access to live Japanese TV on a daily basis, and seeing AKB48 over and over and over again on variety shows and other programs makes me fed up with anything relating to that genre. In regards to my comment about Frontier having a hint of realism in terms of a relationship going, between Alto, Sheryl and Ranka, it's because they didn't follow a typical Japanese anime relationship formula between the 3 of them. The writers actually put some thought and believable reactions on how each character would handle the situation they were in. It's still nowhere near as good as the writing in Macross Plus, but it wasn't half bad. |
||||||||
|
||||||||
|
SayuriUliana
Posts: 34 |
|
|||||||
|
I really don't get people complaining about the CGI in what's essentially a non-finished preview episode (hence they gave it the numbering "0.89").
Besides, the CGI as it currently is no worse than Frontier TV's, so don't really see much of a problem. (Then again, I'm one of those who doesn't judge by the quality of CG, given that I like stuff like Vandread). |
||||||||
|
||||||||
 |
All times are GMT - 5 Hours |
|
|
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group