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NEWS: Japan's Ruling Party to Reintroduce Child Pornography Law Revision


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revolutionotaku



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:33 am Reply with quote
Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote:
revolutionotaku wrote:
Chagen46 wrote:
CrowLia wrote:
No, really... How could you tell?


Just confirming.

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Yeah it did chagen it was called the patriot act in 2001


I thought CrowLia wasn't from the US? I could be wrong.

I don't pay much attention to politics anyway...and the patriot act was when I was, like, six


The PATRIOT Act of 2001 was created in response to the terrorist attacks on 9/11.


that people blindly let pass through without even reading a word of it. we gave up freedoms in order to protect them go democracy!!!

Bush was the type of US President who'd rather lead than read.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9f1TYyvEx8
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mangamuscle



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:43 am Reply with quote
revolutionotaku wrote:
Bush was the type of US President who'd rather lead than read.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9f1TYyvEx8


More like "Hey uncle Dick, what is the best option to move our agenda forward".
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:19 pm Reply with quote
Mesonoxian Eve wrote:

It gets worse when the pressure is coming from a global entity, such as NATO, whom I believe is the organization putting pressure on Japan to change its ways to a position which is "unified".


NATO? NATO is a defense treaty. And of North Atlantic countries.


Mesonoxian Eve wrote:

The Japanese public has a chance, and one chance, to do something about it, but like your statement indicates, most just don't care to get the rider off the bill and focus on the real problem.


The Japanese are even more apathetic to politics than Western otaku. They don't watch the news. They're too busy watching their shows or reading manga instead of the newspaper.
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faintsmile1992



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:48 pm Reply with quote
Whenever a Japanese law about this is proposed, western otaku panic but its always a mountain out of a molehill. I doubt schoolgirl's panties are going to be banned. Wink

Depictions of bestiality are already illegal so the Japanese make anime smut about 'dog demons' to get around the law anyway.

As for age of consent laws... when I was 18, my then boyfriend was 14, and awesome. Those laws just aren't fair. Teens are young adults, not children (of course real 3D child pornography is bad though).
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guildmaster



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:51 pm Reply with quote
So it's all NATO's fault now? Really Rolling Eyes

As usual no location identified. NATO is not an international law making entity. It is a political - military Treaty based Alliance which by its very definition can not include Japan.

Now if you had stated UN or EU, there might be some agreement, nothing good comes out of most UN resolutions and there's certainly nothing good coming out anything the EU gets its hands on.
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Mesonoxian Eve



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 1:22 pm Reply with quote
Ugh. Brain fart. UN, not NATO.

Sorry about that. Now, please untwist your panties and continue on with the discussion.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 1:31 pm Reply with quote
Chagen46 wrote:
CrowLia wrote:
No, really... How could you tell?


Just confirming.

Quote:
Yeah it did chagen it was called the patriot act in 2001


I thought CrowLia wasn't from the US? I could be wrong.

I don't pay much attention to politics anyway...and the patriot act was when I was, like, six


Just FTR, no, I don't live in the US, I don't even know what the patriot act is and I wasn't even remotely referring to it
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whiskeyii



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:34 pm Reply with quote
First off, I'm all for banning child porn. For me, that includes depictions of any real-life person under the age of 18.

As for fictional ones, I'll be the first to say I'm not a fan of loli/shota at all, but I respect others' enthusiasm for it. Different strokes for different folks.

What I don't get, is why the heck hasn't Japan implemented some kind of rating system for this stuff? I mean, if the intent is to abolish child porn while protecting certain consumers from topics others might deem inappropriate, why not just slap an "AO" Adults Only tag on it? Or any other equivalent for "E", "T", "OT", or "M"? Isn't that a smarter way to regulate content?

Or am I somehow missing the point of this bill entirely?
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Alexander55



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:06 pm Reply with quote
whiskeyii wrote:
First off, I'm all for banning child porn. For me, that includes depictions of any real-life person under the age of 18.

As for fictional ones, I'll be the first to say I'm not a fan of loli/shota at all, but I respect others' enthusiasm for it. Different strokes for different folks.

What I don't get, is why the heck hasn't Japan implemented some kind of rating system for this stuff? I mean, if the intent is to abolish child porn while protecting certain consumers from topics others might deem inappropriate, why not just slap an "AO" Adults Only tag on it? Or any other equivalent for "E", "T", "OT", or "M"? Isn't that a smarter way to regulate content?

Or am I somehow missing the point of this bill entirely?


The industry is already self-regulating itself. And VNs and Hentai distributed already have laws to abide by. Retailers don't allow "minors" to access the said content easily. Its already good as it is. Actually, I wish there was some sort of amendment that just leaves the whole industry alone. That' way, none of those lousy politicians mettle with them. Smile

Now if you're talking about "minors" accessing adult content online, than that should be up to the parent's responsibility to tackle, not the government's. If parent's aren't gonna bother checking up on their kids, than they are at fault, not the adults who consume and produce such said products.
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sukochi



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:31 pm Reply with quote
there are certain places and events (If the establishments pay enough money and fit the terms) that you can dance.....however most clubs here in tokyo have limited floor space due to high priced land costs......

So if Above & Beyond or Armin Van Buuren were to preform in Japan, they wouldn't be welcomed?[/quote]
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sukochi



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:33 pm Reply with quote
You can dance only at certain places (and occasionally until certain times).....but its strictly regulated....

im sure if you do a little research, you can find out more about the no dancing law in Japan.....its pretty much well known now....


Side note:
sukochi you can't dance in club over there?? That kills my friends plans for my next trip to japan...lol[/quote]
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thing492



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:36 pm Reply with quote
Sukochi: Shocked i didn't know they had a law like that. Thats lame...I love to dance and was hope to hit up the night seen there. I'll have to look some places i could go to so i dont get locked up there lol. He did have to remind me a lot about the spitting and being to load on the bus/train bad habits... crazy stuff
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 12:30 am Reply with quote
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Just FTR, no, I don't live in the US, I don't even know what the patriot act is and I wasn't even remotely referring to it

The PATRIOT Act of 2001 was created in response to the terrorist attacks on 9/11.
It created "Big Brother" laws on the American population.
Whoever is identified as a terrorist or labeled as an extreme threat in the United States are send to prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
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Gon*Gon



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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 12:41 am Reply with quote
faintsmile1992 wrote:
Whenever a Japanese law about this is proposed, western otaku panic but its always a mountain out of a molehill. I doubt schoolgirl's panties are going to be banned. Wink

Depictions of bestiality are already illegal so the Japanese make anime smut about 'dog demons' to get around the law anyway.
Aaaactually, you don't even need to go the dog demon route. Bestiality is seen in quite a few stuff in doujin market.
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guildmaster



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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 8:19 am Reply with quote
Mesonoxian Eve wrote:
Ugh. Brain fart. UN, not NATO.

Sorry about that. Now, please untwist your panties and continue on with the discussion.


Going commando - nothing to untwist! Razz
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