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Tempest
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Depends on the contract. If the original contract has some sort of stipulation that the rights revert to the creator (or another investor) upon Toei's bankruptcy, then that happens. If there's no such stipulation, then the rights (or Toei's share of the rights) go into the bankruptcy assets and will be sold to recover the bankrupt company's debts. Anyone could end up owning them, a bank, the highest bidder, the government, etc... This is why some anime often have rights that are of unknown status, or in "licensing limbo."
Same situation as a property with no contractual stipulations. -t |
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LydiaDianne
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Thank you very much as well. I really appreciate the answers given by you and Shadowhawk. They've cleared things up for me. No wonder contract attorneys make big money! |
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Tempest
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See that "Before they were released" bit ? Compare the review dates with the release dates. -t |
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Someone_II
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Damn, and I was planing to buy Slam Dunk on payday. Well, this sucks.
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Storm Princess
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Actually some of their shows are in demand. Namely shows like Bo-bobo and One Piece that haven't been released on DVD yet or haven't been released uncut.
I mean Bo-bobo doesn't have a ton of fans, but there's still a group out there that would buy it on DVD. But Toei has no plans to release it or from what I've herd they don't. I mean if they release it uncut with a sub track, people will buy it. And it would be a blessing in dusguise for Toei. I mean people still buy anime that are as crazy or crazier then Bo-bobo with just as many or more Japanese-only puns and gags. |
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Abarenbo Shogun
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This....4Kids being given carte blanche to mess with One Piece....and the whole Battle Royale "3,500 screen guarantee" release controversy.
Geez, if i didn't know any better, Toei thinks they can conquer the US market, but failed miserably. |
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ryoga79
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Slam Dunk hits me again, I have five volumes of manga which got cancelled and now four useless volumes of it on dvd. I sort of expected it as it wasn't advertised, Amazon only had info & a picture for the 1st volume and as everyone else has mentioned, it wasn't advertised at all.
I admit I was going around slating the subs but I was still putting over that it was a good show - probably more advertising than Toei did. Guess I just have to hope it gets the release it deserves sometime in the future, both manga and dvd. |
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Raven Shinobi
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Dang it, and I've been waiting patiently for new releases of Salm Dunk, I love that series. It seems like I have no choice but to import or wait for another company to pick up the rights, it seems I'm eventually going to go with the former
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Nagisa
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Because, as someone else has pointed out, it's not an unreasonable assessment to make here, given these rather specific circumstances. There was no advertising and it was a deplorable product; it's not out of the question that there are (or were) fans of Slam Dunk, Interlude, and Air Gear that were either not aware that the DVDs were even available, or refused to buy such a crappy, crappy release in the first place. If, say, Geneon or FUNimation put these series out like any other one of their licenses, with a fair amount of advertising and a respectable quality, do you really think these series would have the same lack of support that they do as garbage-grade discs nobody was told about? I would honestly doubt it. Even if it were just a slight increase, I honestly think there would be more fans buying these anime under those circumstances than there were lining up for Toei's release. |
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Mohawk52
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Raoh
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I'm in the same boat, pretty much. Though I didn't buy the dvds for obvious reasons, Raijin Comics was doing a great job on the manga, in my opinion. I was able to collect a few volumes before they went out of print. Same with some of their other stuff, such as Fist of The Blue Sky and Bow Wow Wata (Which I thuroughly enjoyed and wished I could read more of). |
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HeeroTX
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No kidding, on a totally unrelated topic, SOMEONE really needs to pick up the licenses that Raijin had. I really wanna see some of those at least finish out their run. *sigh* |
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BorgmanJayce
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I'd love to see someone pick up the Raijin Comics stuff as well for distribution outside Japan... It's just a crying shame that the Americans never got used to a weekly manga anthology like us Brits did as we've been used to weekly comics for years...
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GATSU
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Zac: There might be a demand for Slam Dunk. She Got Game sells ok for Tokyopop, and Vagabond sells well for Viz. I think SD is just a tougher series to market than other sports titles. I could see why Air Master wouldn't be a big hit here, though. The female lead isn't hot enough to appeal to guys, and she's too muscular too appeal to girls.
kraid:
I don't think that would make a difference if Toei at least released titles which they knew would reach a wider audience. Nagisa:
I think that, at best, they'd probably do as well as some of ADV's worst-sellers like Gals. The manga was more accurate, and didn't catch on here, either. I've talked to Viz, and even though they hinted that they'd re-release it, they don't seem to have plans. Storm Princess:
I was hoping the 4Kids One Piece would fail, but apparently it has a decent sales rank at Amazon. *sigh* But at least the low ratings ruined 4Kids' market share. 
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Chiyosuke
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NOOOOOOOOO!!! How can a man I respect so much go over to Toei... so this is why I haven't seen him listed with Geneon as of late. I really hope he can change the direction of the company, because being the former president and CEO of Geneon USA, he ought to know what we like. I hate Toei Co. as a whole with a passion (not just Toei Animation Inc.), but I really hope for the best with Kobayashi at the helm... |
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