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CrowLia
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I'm throwing in Nobunaga Concerto, Tokyo Ghoul and Kuroshitsuji Book of Circus to the list of stuff better than Hanayamata, just from this season. Free ES is also better in the department of "club activities anime". Can't say about Ao Haru Ride because I found the first episode so offensive I couldn't keep watching. But Hanayamata is one of the nicest additions to "cute girls doing cute things" in recent memory. It's a shame that the animation budget is so low, the opening sequence made me very excited about the yosakoi dancing, but we've barely seen any of it that isn't composed of still frames
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dtm42
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I'm not even going to touch Hanasaku Iroha because that's a can of worms we don't need to eat. But I do stand by my assertion that the drama in Hanayamata is what is holding the show back. The comedy isn't remarkable but it is effective, while the cutesy scenes add charm and help make the characters endearing. Now, the band breaking up and Yaya getting distraught, Machi's grudge and abandonment issues, Naru's almost pathological stagefright, Tami (and Sally) dealing with crushing expectations, and of course Hana's family issues which we'll be seeing next time . . . these are all entirely reasonable and are all vitally important elements in fleshing out the characters. But it's the way the elements are used that is grating. Too much shouting and trauma. No, I don't necessarily want something so light and fluffy that it's essentially vapid; drama in itself is not bad. What I am saying is that although the drama in Hanayamata isn't bad it is a weak point. Or rather, in another sense, the drama itself is fine, it is the way in which the drama is executed that is the problem here. At any rate, I'm loving the show (quite a bit actually) despite the drama rather than because of it.
Well, different strokes for different folks. I don't know what it is that you didn't like about it but I'll concede that Handa isn't the most sympathetic main character. The kids however are a real treat. Voiced by real kids too (who even have the right dialect for the show's setting), which is rare but always nice to see.
You are indeed correct; both have improved a lot since their inauspicious starts. I too thought that Ao Haru Ride started off a bit weak - not enough establishing of their attraction before he buggers off and becomes all moody and she goes all shallow. But it quickly turned around and is now one of the best shoujo series in the past few years. Get this; these characters actually talk about their feelings and clear up misunderstandings straight away. Truly there is hope for shoujo romance yet. True to its name it did take a while, but Baby Steps has really come into its own. The first few episodes were hard to watch as Eiichiro was absolutely useless - which is realistic but boring - but now that he's competent and has the fire lit in his belly he has become a compelling protagonist. Without the earlier trials his (thus-far limited) successes wouldn't be so meaningful. This is what a sports show should be like, instead of some dumb thing like Kuroko no Basuke or Prince of Tennis that throws out realism in order to pander to fangirls. I haven't seen a single superpower yet. (Unless you count "he can serve and volley really well" or "he's a baseline specialist" as a superpower LOL.) |
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Key
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Posts: 18223 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley) |
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Hmmm, I must be out on an island in the degree of esteem that I hold for Hanayamata, then. But I'm fine with that because, except for episode 9, I've found it to be a quite emotionally satisfying series. We've definitely had our stark disagreements on execution issues in the past, dtm, so I guess this will just be another such case.
Not so much that I didn't like it as that I just didn't find it all that interesting. I think the problem is that I have never had much tolerance for "rambunctious little kid disrupts adult's life in an ultimately positive way" kind of stories. (Major exception: Annie. Yeah, I'm going to have to go see the upcoming new movie version.)
If yours seems to be a common opinion on this one at the end of the season then I might give it a second shot.
No dice here. The only sports series that ever worked for me (Cross Game) not only captivated me from the first episode but also did it primarily for reasons other than the sports aspect. |
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enurtsol
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A Japanese just reached the finals of the US Open, the first time ever an Asian man has reached a tennis Grand Slam final. He didn't need special shots, didn't need secret techniques. Just did the regular things better than his opponents. Sometimes, these special secret techniques their media propagate hold the Japanese players back because it ingrains in their belief that these are the only ways they can beat the big bad foreigners. They're self-defeating themselves before they even step on the court. |
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HeeroTX
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I've been really enjoying Hanayamata, and its one of the only series (aside from Sailor Moon Crystal) that I got my wife watching. I don't think I could put it top 5 for the year, but it would probably make my top 5 for this season. |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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Well it isn't like I dislike Hanayamata, far from it in fact. I have found it to be quite enjoyable and I'm probably going to end up rating it as Good or - if it ends strongly - Very Good.
Well see, I know you are a sports fan in real life, but the above paragraph tells me that you just do not like watching anime about sports. And that's fine. However, it does mean that when it comes to judging sports titles your opinion carries no weight. Baby Steps is a well-written show, and not just compared to other titles in the sports genre. The fact that it didn't interest you doesn't mean anything because - apart from Cross Game, which you admit you enjoyed primarily for the emotional and relationship drama - no sports title has ever grabbed you. |
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Key
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Posts: 18223 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley) |
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I think I can still fairly judge whether or not it makes a good story overall, but in terms of whether or not something's a good example of the genre, I won't dispute that. |
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jymmy
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One title that hasn't been mentioned in dtm42 and Key's discussion, although I can certainly understand why, is Minarai Diva. I can watch some series in Japanese, but what's basically an animated radio show is a bit beyond me, so I'm at the mercy of the fansubbers. Regardless, the game of charades in episode two is easily my single favourite scene from the whole season, even above Barakamon's better moments and Momoka's shoulder angel-shoulder devil fight sequence from Sabagebu!.
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yu3lora
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Funny that the people who hate this show think that its all about cuteness.
Anyway, I cried a river in this episode. |
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leeoflittlefaith
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Episode 11 has been my favourite episode so far, and that's largely because of the lack of emotional speeches and the presence of emotional ACTIONS.
Personally I enjoyed that Hana let her normally bold personality slide (or I should say her bold 'face', because she probably puts up boldness as a front) for the sake of her family being happy. In fact, it would be more trite in my opinion if she stopped them and begged and used another freaking emotional speech to convince them. For the same reason I enjoyed how they rush off to get Hana back only to let her go. Those little differences make the rather typical and inevitable storyline a bit more memorable. For once these characters felt human rather than immortal moe girls that can overcome any hardship with a little can-do attitude and a speech or two. |
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CrowLia
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I generally liked the show, but the artificial drama in these last two episodes felt terribly unnecessary, and I still feel I got cheated out of a proper dancing sequence. I'll give the series an overall Good, it was pretty but that last drama with Hana was just eyeroll-worthy for me.
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HaruhiToy
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My rating: one maybe 1.5 steps below Masterpiece.
I agree pretty much with Theron's review, but one thing I did not appreciate is their insistence on making a last minute nail-biting time crisis out of Hana's return. I felt like the big performance itself was disrupted -- Sea Monk had to spend is time bowing apologies instead of recording the performance going on. Would it have been so impossible to have Hana arrive 15 minutes before curtain? (It seems like her dad didn't arrive any later than she did.) Loved the gratuitous sync with the fireworks -- as Theron points out they had a limit on their budget and this almost made up for it. Hana's mom: redeemed, I guess. A last-minute ticket to Japan ain't cheap even for coach. (You can sometimes get $800 deals for open seats.) Nana's dad: you big lovable dumb lunk you. Sally and Sea Monk -- beering together at last. Next season? I haven't seen anything announced but does anyone know how sales are doing? |
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HeavenTD
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Probably one of the most satisfying endings to an anime I've seen recently, all questions answered, previous characters return to resolve anything uncertainties and a glimpse of what the characters will get up to in the future.
Season 2 or not I'm left with a smile and good memories of this anime and would not be disappointed if it were to end here. Also you can watch the live action music videos of the opening that's been available for a while: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMt5Az8YgbA http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24332330 Equal levels of cuteness as the anime. |
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John Hayabusa
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And yet another one of my favorites has ended.
While Sabagebu gives me chuckles, Hanayamata warms my heart. I love the vibrant art style and the girls' slightly unique faces (I am talking about their eyelashes). Also love the girls themselves. And forgive me for saying this but this is the most yurilicious show in this season. Honestly though, the one thing I hate about the show is the drama which either should have been better or taken out. Not enough yosakoi because of it. Overall, a good show that is funny and heartwarming. |
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kevinx59
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haven't seen the final episode yet so I avoided reading the review for now but the A- score seems like the last episode was good. Something to look forward to then.
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