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Surrender Artist
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What is it that lets you say the things that you do? I would love to abolish that. It would make the world a better place.
Bandwagon or not, if their money and attention goes to anime, I don't much mind. At worst, a few mostly benign nuisances show up for a while. Besides, there's always the chance that a few of those people might develop a sincere interest, thus enlarging the community, which is very much not a bad thing. There's no harm in letting new people into the treehouse even if they're not 'the right kind of people'. Last edited by Surrender Artist on Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:24 am; edited 1 time in total |
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rhetoricalnoise
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Over the years I've frequently heard people complain that at the Oscars, quality alone isn't always the sole determining factor in which film gets the award in any given category, it often seems as though a variety of other concerns, or "politics" if you will, will play a role. For example, a director/actor/whomever who kept getting overlooked in the past for some outstanding work may get an Oscar later in their career for a film that was only merely "okay" to kind of show that the academy does appreciate that person's artistic contributions to the medium.
I'm not sure how truth there are to these complaints, but I thought I'd bring that up before admitting that every year when an anime film is eligible for an Oscar, I'm always bias in its favor regardless of whether or not I feel that it's the best animated film of the year, for "political" reasons. I guess I have that old school US anime fan mentality, where I still want to see good anime more widely accepted by the mainstream. Funimation tried their darnedest to position Summer Wars for a 2010 nomination, which it sadly didn't receive. It happens I like How to Train your Dragon more then Summer Wars, but had the latter gotten a nomination I would have been rooting for it to get the Oscar (Toy Story 3 ended up with the award that year). Can you imagine what an incredible boost getting an Oscar for Summer Wars would have been to Mamoru Hosoda's career? Well him or any other Japanese anime director whose name isn't Hayao Miyazaki? In the case of A Letter to Momo, maybe it'd mean we'd get films from Hiroyuki Okiura more then once a decade. That'd sure be swell. I generally don't pay close attention to the Oscars, but I recognize that many people do, and if there's even a small chance that GKids can position A Letter to Momo to get a nomination next year, I'm really happy to see them go for it. |
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penguintruth
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Come on, pushing it back so they might win an award? That's so conceited. Especially when they didn't even make the film.
Sure, winning an award gives it a bit more prestige, but if it's a good film, people will appreciate because it's good, not because it won an Oscar. |
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rhetoricalnoise
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I find it strange that you see this decision as "conceited." This film along with From Up On Poppy Hill are the two big, new, animated features from Japan that GKids is releasing in the US in the near future. From Up On Poppy Hill is going to be submitted to the Academy for consideration at the 2012 Oscars, while A Letter to Momo is going to submitted to the 2013 Oscars. This is a fairly common release strategy employed by film distributors here. They're being careful not to put the two biggest items in their catalog out around the same time and end up competing with themselves. They're spreading them out, and that's smart. And I'm not sure what GKids not being involved with the original production of the film has to do with anything. They clearly have the film's best interests in mind, and I can't conceive of any reason why either Prodiction I.G or director Hiroyuki Okiura would have any objections to this decision.
It's not that people who actually sit down to watch the film won't appreciate it if it doesn't have an Oscar, but rather convincing people to take the time to visit their local theaters, put up money and then actually watching the film in the first place. Sure, animation aficionados may be interested in A Letter to Momo due to some of the positive buzz from the festival circuit and/or because it's a feature from the director of Jin-Roh. But what about people that genuinely enjoy animated films but aren't super nerdy about it and/or hang out on animation forums like this one? The movie may totally escape their notice. Just simply getting a nomination would do the film a world of good and could also do wonders for Hiroyuki Okiura's career back in Japan. |
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DerekTheRed
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Wait a sec. So, pushing back the release of Momo to 2013 will really make it eligible for an Oscar in 2014? But it will have premiered 2 years and 5 months before the ceremony (according to the encyclopedia). Isn't there some sort of stipulation that a film has had to have premiered within a certain time from the awards?
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Norbie
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The Premier in LA is what matters I believe. Be nice |
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Fabe
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Guess I must be a idiots as well since "How to train you dragon" is currently in the number one spot on my personal list of best animated movies I've seen and feel that it deserved the Oscar. |
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TitanXL
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Really? You of all people should know this, given the drama that always happens in the stream preview threads of when people complain the critic staff don't like/like certain stuff. I see it quite often in other places too. Some co-workers only go to see movies critics rave about and hang off their every word on what they see with no real opinions of their own.
Just calling it like I see it. Far too often I always see awards being thrown up on the table in someone's rant how a show or movie is better than another. |
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Crisha
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I tend to find people more complex than what we see of them. Or what we want to see clouds our perception. Perhaps they really don't want to put much thought towards their entertainment? Perhaps they've got millions of other things in life to worry about and just want to consume or zone out when they've got free time? Perhaps the critics haven't let them down before and they just go with something familiar? Perhaps they do have opinions but aren't willing or are uncomfortable with sharing and instead play it safe and just repeat what the professional says? Perhaps they just happen to share the same feelings/opinions as the professional? But let's just say that we've got a bunch of mindless cattle who buy without thinking or always default to the higher power's opinion. This is still money going into the pockets of those who produced/made/distributed the works for us. I'm certain they appreciate it no matter what the reason for someone paying to see it. And if it helps the industry, then I don't see the big deal (but, then again, I support the domestic industry).
This fandom is already filled with people I don't care for. What's one more? I highly doubt they could be any more annoying than the "true fans." And any "band-wagoner" has the potential to become a "true fan," and couldn't that be a good thing? Besides, I doubt that if they're just a "band-wagoner" that you'd come across them too often. It's not like they'd hold a strong opinion that keeps them around forums (or other anime fan hideouts/social areas) for a long time constantly speaking their minds or repeatedly stating their opinions. |
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enurtsol
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No, the guy's correct - the original foreign release also matters, outlined also with Arrietty here: 1. The required Los Angeles County qualifying run (described in Rule Two Paragraph 2) must begin between January 1, 2012, and midnight of December 31, 2012. 3. A picture first theatrically exhibited outside the U.S. prior to the Los Angeles County qualifying run shall be eligible for submission provided the prior exhibition takes place in a commercial motion picture theater after January 1, 2011 But the guy was incorrect about the date. Festivals don't count since that's not a normal ticketed theatrical run, so Momo's 2011 festival circuit is off. What counts is Momo's April 2012 Japanese theatrical release, so a Los Angeles release in 2013 would qualify it for the 2013 Oscars.
Hey we already have that with many a J-otaku and the aforementioned "checklist!" 
Well anyways, probably many people who say awards don't matter are the same ones who follow Japanese awards and polls. |
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Tenbyakugon
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As the editor-in-chief of a media outlet, how surprised should I be that you very apparently don't know the American media environment and those that participate in it, both of which involve the American audience of the Academy Awards, very well? Seriously, I shouldn't have to tell anyone in this country how crazy our media is, but I do, that which is completely against what Freedom of Press, and therefore our Constitution, stands for, but dammit if Americans aren't so easily drawn in. A serious need for some sociology in this country! |
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Surrender Artist
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Can I get this word salad with the house dressing and no cucumber? |
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Mohawk52
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The caveat to all this is if either films get recognised at all especially if there is the usual zero advertisment for anime content outside of the usual fandom, with treatment of only one nights viewing by the few cinemas that are given it. I mean where was Arriette at this this year's Oscars? |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Arrietty will be going for this year's nomination at the awards next February, against Brave and ParaNorma, and probably Ice Age 4, Madagascar 3, Wreck-It-Ralph, and whatever other animated films will be nominated to fill slots but have zero chance of winning. RT seems to favor Arrietty, but it's left to the Academy to decide, not the critics. Brave wasn't that strong of a film, but after Cars 2 I'm sure they're itching to throw another award Pixar's way to make everyone forget. |
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Primus
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You guys argue too much, just sit back and wait a bit until you can watch the movie. I saw it back during TIFF last year, and it's great.
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