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NEWS: Little Busters! TV Anime's 2nd Promo Streamed

Didn't like it.

Kevelinu wrote:

I may look like a total idiot, but I really can't see how people think that the animation is THAT bad. Yes, KyoAni's animation looks better. But I really don't think this is that bad and as long as the story is good (and I only hear praising about the story) this will be awesome I think.

um...Clannad, which aired a few years ago, looks substantially better than this. That's saying something. I'm annoyed that this is below-average even for J.C Staff. I wasn't expecting good animation from the start anyway, but not this much.

I think I prefer the animation on the Pet show than this.

I'm annoyed that this is below-average even for J.C Staff. I wasn't expecting good animation from the start anyway, but not this much.

How can anyone say something like this, based in a preview of not much of 5% of the entire episode?
Previews are supposed to be good. They are supposed to impress the new viewers and please the old ones. What does this video tell for new viewers? LOL that this is some kind of fighting anime with cute chicks and lousy animation? Pretty much.

I'm not trying to be devil's advocate really, in fact I know how to recognize something bad, and yeah in that pv there are 2 or 3 sequences that were awful, poor in framerate, poorly choreographed, whatever you wanna say. But also know that isn't even a fraction of the episode, or the scene itself.
I agree with you. I never said the show was bound to fail. I merely mentioned that the animation on the preview was awful. Maybe the anime itself will improve on that, and I hope it does.

When the show begin, and when I has seen 2 or 3 chapters at the same level or worst, okay, I'll say "this is below-average even for J.C staff", just because I know other shows of the studio which have been disgusting.
And, who knows? maybe the direction, pacing, script, or another "non-visual concept" be quite much better than expected. Anime is an entire block of factors, not just "art/animation"
But if the anmation doesn't bring the correct atmosphere, the script will feel sub-par no matter how good it is.

If I'd have to do a criticism, would say that it is "INCONSISTENT" that is completely different that plain "bad". Just because, there is a marked diference between art and animation. The art is good, but the renderization of this art, isn't that good. And as I said, isn't not the entire episode so could have better scenes.
It could have better scenes indeed, and again - I hope so - but the fact that the PV had pathetic animation still stands.
Using the same "To Aru majutsu" example that I mentioned before, that show was "TOP level", according to JCstaff. But indeed it had awful episodes, I mean FILTHY episodes. But also, incredible scenes, really great, even for "Kyoani (since we're using it) standards". And that's not bad, it is "inconsistent". Is the same thing that happens to 80% of shonens nowadays. The budget is limited so they need to use it efficiently.
It works if you can manage the budget. But in LB!'s case, most scenes are just the characters talking, the battles are just occasional. I don't see how they will waste so much budget in this. I expected the battles to have the best animation. As you may have noticed, the PV did nothing but disappoint me in that aspect.

It's hilarious. I've read, a lot of paranoids reviews of those pvs today, with a lot of hormonal speeches. And honestly do nothing but make me laugh xD
Good for you.

I kinda knew we'd be let down animation wise since this has the same director as Kill Me Baby... probably the lowest budget full TV show of the year. If this turns out to have less budget than the Pet show, then I think I'll lose all respect for JC Staff.

To get an idea of why animation/character-design is so important let me use the examples of Gunslinger Girl and Gunslinger Girl:Teatrino. I'll lay out some basic stats about both:

MAL users who have completed Gunslinger Girl: 32,810
MAL users who have completed GSG:Teatrino: 10,261

That's a huge fall from one series to another. Over 2/3rds of the people who finished Gunslinger Girl did not finish Teatrino. Could it be that Teatrino is just that bad? Not really, only about 1300 people on MAL have Teatrino listed as 'dropped'.

While I understand your logic I don't really think that is the real reason why. If you look at almost any 1st season compared to the 2nd season you will see a significant drop.

Fletcher1991 wrote:

While I understand your logic I don't really think that is the real reason why. If you look at almost any 1st season compared to the 2nd season you will see a significant drop.

MAL users who have completed Code Geass: 165,956
MAL users who have completed Code Geass R2: 142,677
MAL users who have completed Tsubasa Chronicle: 42,085
MAL users who have completed Tsubasa Chronicle 2: 29,763

So a 15% drop for R2 and a 30% drop for Tsubasa 2. I picked Tsubasa because I thought that would have the best shot at matching Teatrino's drop due to fan opinion on the first series but it didn't even have half the percentage drop that Teatrino has.

If you think a 66% drop is a norm, then I would love to see numbers to support it, because everything I have looked at says otherwise. 2/3rd of the people not wanting to watch a direct sequel with the same cast of characters and a continuation of the story from the first series (particularly a series that is well-regarded as GSG) does not seem normal at all.

Previews are supposed to be good. They are supposed to impress the new viewers and please the old ones. What does this video tell for new viewers? LOL that this is some kind of fighting anime with cute chicks and lousy animation? Pretty much.

I agree with you. I never said the show was bound to fail. I merely mentioned that the animation on the preview was awful. Maybe the anime itself will improve on that, and I hope it does.

But if the anmation doesn't bring the correct atmosphere, the script will feel sub-par no matter how good it is.

It works if you can manage the budget. But in LB!'s case, most scenes are just the characters talking, the battles are just occasional. I don't see how they will waste so much budget in this. I expected the battles to have the best animation. As you may have noticed, the PV did nothing but disappoint me in that aspect.

Good for you.

I'm....not seeing what is so bad besides the shinai scene.

And now with Little Busters we have an audience who is used to extremely high quality of art and animation from both Kyoto Animation and P.A. Works. Will they too not even bother with Little Busters which so far looks quite a few rungs down the ladder in terms of visual quality? Or will Key fans be more into the show for the story than the Gunslinger Girl fans are? That is definitely something I am curious to see.

I'm....not seeing what is so bad besides the shinai scene.

leokiko wrote:

Didn't like it. Kevelinu wrote: I may look like a total idiot, but I really can't see how people think that the animation is THAT bad. Yes, KyoAni's animation looks better. But I really don't think this is that bad and as long as the story is good (and I only hear praising about the story) this will be awesome I think. um...Clannad, which aired a few years ago, looks substantially better than this. That's saying something. I'm annoyed that this is below-average even for J.C Staff. I wasn't expecting good animation from the start anyway, but not this much. I think I prefer the animation on the Pet show than this.

I kinda knew we'd be let down animation wise since this has the same director as Kill Me Baby... probably the lowest budget full TV show of the year. If this turns out to have less budget than the Pet show, then I think I'll lose all respect for JC Staff.