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BlaqNumbr9



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:22 pm Reply with quote
I was wondering which of the biggies would license this. I never saw Sony in the running though. This came out of left field from where I'm standing.

Anyway, it's a really good series. They shouldn't be able to screw this one up...I hope.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:17 pm Reply with quote
dmanjdb wrote:
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So.. this is a bad thing? How so? Granted, Bebop is the only Sony handled anime I've experienced, but they seemed to do a good job.


They let Astro Boy and Cyborg 009 to rotten. Made Memories and Tokyo Godfathers look like art films and didn't gave them a proper anime release. Took their sweet time with the Bebop movie and fansubs and illegal DVD took their sales away. Steamboy had it high and lows also. Sony don't know how to handle anime period.


The Bebop film was delayed because of 9/11. There was a terrorism plot in the movie, so they held it up. I saw a fansub of it several months before the film got a release here though, so I wasn't complaining. I did see it in a theater when it came out because it was the dub version & I wanted to see it. And it was fun to see it in a theater with other fans.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:20 pm Reply with quote
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patch wrote:
Tony K. wrote:
Granted, Bebop is the only Sony handled anime I've experienced, but they seemed to do a good job.


They didn't handle Cowboy Bebop, it was Bandai Entertainment/ZRO Limit.

Where'd you get Sony from?


Yes they did. Sony handled the movie.


Sony put it out through another company, Destination Films.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:20 pm Reply with quote
emory wrote:
patch wrote:
Tony K. wrote:
Granted, Bebop is the only Sony handled anime I've experienced, but they seemed to do a good job.


They didn't handle Cowboy Bebop, it was Bandai Entertainment/ZRO Limit.

Where'd you get Sony from?


Yes they did. Sony handled the movie.


No, they did not "handle" the movie.

Who handled it was the same group that made the TV series english translation and voice work better than the original japanese dub.

Mary Elizabeth McGlynn (ADR Director) and Marc Handler (ADR Script) ... Bandai Entertainment / ZRO Limit and course an amazing lead actor, Steve Blum... It was already 'handled'.

Don't know what Sony's involvment with the TV Series or the movie except getting there grubby hands on a winning bid?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:23 pm Reply with quote
patch wrote:
emory wrote:
patch wrote:
Tony K. wrote:
Granted, Bebop is the only Sony handled anime I've experienced, but they seemed to do a good job.


They didn't handle Cowboy Bebop, it was Bandai Entertainment/ZRO Limit.

Where'd you get Sony from?


Yes they did. Sony handled the movie.


No, they did not "handle" the movie.

Who handled it was the same group that made the TV series english translation and voice work better than the original japanese dub.

Mary Elizabeth McGlynn (ADR Director) and Marc Handler (ADR Script) ... Bandai Entertainment / ZRO Limit and course an amazing lead actor, Steve Blum... It was already 'handled'.

Don't know what Sony's involvment with the TV Series or the movie except getting there grubby hands on a winning bid?


Bandai/ZRO Limit handled the dub. Sony/Destination Films actually released the film.

Tammy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:28 pm Reply with quote
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[Sony put it out through another company, Destination Films.


Destination Films is to Sony as Vertigo (or, more accurately, CMX) is to DC Comics.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:30 pm Reply with quote
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No, they did not "handle" the movie.

Who handled it was the same group that made the TV series english translation and voice work better than the original japanese dub.

[snip]

Don't know what Sony's involvment with the TV Series or the movie except getting there grubby hands on a winning bid?

I meant they handled it in terms of actually licensing and releasing it. Obviously, if they had some part in it, that should be considered "handling" it to a certain degree. And didn't they also make an effort to at least get the original cast to even dub the movie in the first place?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:38 pm Reply with quote
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I meant they handled it in terms of actually licensing and releasing it. Obviously, if they had some part in it, that should be considered "handling" it to a certain degree. And didn't they also make an effort to at least get the original cast to even dub the movie in the first place?


Got it... yes they do have the license. I just wanted to make it clear it that we shouldn't be thanking them for the success and quality of the US version of Cowboy Bebop.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:53 pm Reply with quote
At this point no one has commented on the fact they are showing this at NATPE.

NATPE!!!

The fact that Sony is showcasing this at NATPE it is very important,though maybe some of the readers here aren't familer enough with NATPE to understand what this means.

NATPE is the National Association of Television Program Executives and their convention is where syndicated TV shows (shows like Stargate SG1, Stargate Atlantis,) broadcast series re-runs (like local airings of King of the Hill or The Simpsons), Court Shows, Game Shows (like Jeopardy!), etc, are sold to the local TV stations in the U.S. for the upcoming years TV season.

So if Sony is showcasing Blood+ at NATPE convention then it means Sony is trying to sell Blood+ as either 30 minute (or possibly hour long), syndicated TV show for the 2006/2007 TV season Shocked. That doesn't mean they might not go back to one of the cable networks if it doesn't sell well enough but from the looks of it they are trying to market Blood+ in the syndicated markets over the cable one [that or Sony maybe trying to cook up a situation similar to the Stargates where a cable station plays it first, then it airs in syndication a few weeks later, but currently there isn't enough information to back that up, so I'll skip going down that theoritical road for now].

This is important in ways I can't express Surprised. I just spent the last fifteen plus years following SF shows that were in syndicaiton, so I have some grasp on this market. Currently, the market is considered dead when it comes to original dramas. Most of what is currently airing when it comes to dramas is repeats of cable shows (the Stargates) one year offset from their cable first run, while most of the animated shows I can think of are also broadcast network shows that are repeating in strip syndicaiton (strip syndiction = five (six or seven) night a week airings, compared to weekly airings of shows).

So IMO it seems to me that Sony is attempting to shake up the market here and try out a new round of anime/animated shows in general in the syndicated market. I actually think this may be a good idea, because if it works it could revitalize the syndication market and kick start a new up cycle for both dramatic and animated shows syndication (the syndicated markets is cyclical, IMO, and the markets is ripe for something new to get it going again).

I do have question though. First, is Sony selling Blood+ as a strip syndicated show or as weekly show (once a week airings, usually on the weekends)? Second, are they selling Blood+ alone or in combination with something? The reason for this question is most local TV stations are programming in blocks of a hour these days, so I would think it would be best if Blood+ was sold with a second half hour of programing (hopefully a animated/anime show), in case stations wanted to stick it in a block of programming (such as my local UPN block programs the Stargates together and I know some that block the Stargates and Farscape syndicated re-runs together).

Of course the second half hour show doesn't necessarly have to be anime or even animated but if anyone has access to finding out what is going on, I'd like to hear what is known on this.

My third question (which just popped into my mind and quashed some of my upbeat mood on all of this) is are they selling Blood+ for Saturday mornings or not Confused. If Sony is trying to sell this for Weekend mornings, then it would be a new low in studio weirdness. However, I'm going to give a rare hope that Sony isn't totally off their rocker and that they are trying to sell this show for a later time slot over a weekend morning one.

This is because Blood+ just doesn't have the weekend morning animated look, feel, or content, and IMO you couldn't edit the show content down enough to make it work (it wouldn't get past anyones S&P for a Sat morning show). However, the show does have a Adult Swim feel and I could see Sony trying to sell it for later weekend slots.

Personally, I think this is a great idea if Sony is trying to sell this show for later in the day slots and if they can pull it off. It has the potential of widening the Anime market and I could seen Blood+ fitting with a station that's running blocks of live action SF programming like the Stargates (I realize Blood+ is more horror than SF but local TV stations usually can't tell the difference, or feel it's close enough to put both genre's together, which can be helpful at times if you're a viewer Razz ). There would also be a outside chance Superstation WGN (the cable superstation, not the local Chicago broadcast station) might pick the show up, which would mean those who get the cable Superstation would be able to watch Blood+ there. However, if Sony isn't trying to go this route and is actually trying to sell the show for a morning slot, then it's going to be painful to watch Sad

Now off of the NATPE stuff, I do admit I'm a bit worried about Sony and who they'll get for the dub but until more in announced I'm not sure I can worry about it to much (maybe they'll do a good job - let just hope this doesn't turn into another AstroBoy/Cyborg 009 debacal).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:58 pm Reply with quote
So, I guess it's a safe bet that BLOOD+ will get an AS run or two? Ironically enough, I just started watching the fansubs today... Maybe I'm psychic. ;]

edit// I made that post before reading MeggieMay's post, but now that I have, I'm going to say it's a very safe bet it'll be on TV somewhere. Anime hyper
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emory



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:26 am Reply with quote
tlsmith1963 wrote:
Bandai/ZRO Limit handled the dub. Sony/Destination Films actually released the film.

Tammy


ZRO Limit/Animaze handled the dub. Bandai was in no way involved. They're a completely different company from ZRO Limit.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:33 am Reply with quote
MeggieMay wrote:
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I don't see them trying it in syndication. Every time anime is syndicated it gets screwed, enough to convince FUNimation to never go back to free-to-air television. If they attempt it, the various stations will probably have different ideas and standards as to how it should be shown, how it should be toned down, how it needs to be altered/edited to appeal to the audience, and so on. Really, cable television is the best way for them to go.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:31 am Reply with quote
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I don't see them trying it in syndication. Every time anime is syndicated it gets screwed, enough to convince FUNimation to never go back to free-to-air television. If they attempt it, the various stations will probably have different ideas and standards as to how it should be shown, how it should be toned down, how it needs to be altered/edited to appeal to the audience, and so on. Really, cable television is the best way for them to go.

Sony, unlike Funimation, has a established TV syndication arm (they are also the current owner of the Stargates IIRC, due to MGM being taken over by Sony). Plus this is TV - just because they've tried it ten times and failed doesn't mean they won't try it another hundred times on the oft chance it will work this time (IMO at the rate TV is going someday we probably will see Coprock II Rolling Eyes Laughing )

However, you're main complaint here seems to be that it is best for Blood+ to go to cable. I'm not sure I disagree with you but but what's best isn't always what happens in real life.

At this point, Sony is showcasing Blood+ at NATPE which means something, whether it's what I'm thinking/theorising or not. IMO if Blood+ was going to AdultSwim/Cartoon Network then Sony wouldn't be showcasing it there because the show would be set to go on cable and AS/CN would be handling it. So it seems Sony is looking for another way to sell the show. Whether it will be in syndication, cable, or a hybrid of the two of them, or just direct to DVD, it really can't be said until more information comes out. However, the fact they are promoting at NATPE is still important, IMO, and worth discussing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:35 am Reply with quote
I'm just glad someone picked it up and I can't wait. I loved the original movie so I can't wait. Actually I just got home and I stopped by Borders beforehand and picked up the novel so this was great news when I got home.

I just wonder how many episodes will be released per DVD.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:27 am Reply with quote
patch wrote:

Got it... yes they do have the license. I just wanted to make it clear it that we shouldn't be thanking them for the success and quality of the US version of Cowboy Bebop.


No, but we should thank them for that quality making it into the movie. There was nothing preventing them from hiring their own dub cast and making the English version of the movie themselves. Sony went to the trouble of getting the old ADR crew from the series back together again and letting Bandai handle things because they knew it was what the fans wanted.

MeggieMay wrote:

Sony, unlike Funimation, has a established TV syndication arm


They also have two shows on Adult Swim at the moment (Boondocks and Robot Chicken) and a working relationship with Cartoon Network that goes all the way back to their release of Cyborg 009. I'm willing to bet the Blood+ announcement was made at that trade show because companies like Sony like to lay all their shows out for the coming year at these events. That doesn't set in stone what market they'll eventually end up in. They're just saying "hey, look what we have!"
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