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dtm42
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There's a lot that is incidentally the same. Special suits that must be worn, the cockpit descending into main body before being screwed in, launching from a dedicated base and facing wave after wave of alien invaders who are following a set pattern by fighting them with segmented blades, those sorts of things. Yes, mostly the similarities are due to the common heritage between Pacific Rim and NGE which are both designed after the super robots of the 70s and 80s. However, the fact that there is a neural linking system is very much like NGE. Drift compatibility works differently than synchronisation rate but the end result is similar; chosen pilots who have to meet strict brainwave compatibility criteria must neurally integrate themselves into their mechs and suffer the risk of the system showing them more than they want to see. And there's a part in Pacific Rim where a pilot clutched their shoulder in pain after their Jaeger's arm was destroyed, which is surely a direct homage to a scene in the battle between Shinji and Zeruel. I will say that what Pacific Rim had that NGE lacked was GLaDOS, which I thought was a pretty neat touch. Many people I talked to didn't even know it was her. |
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shamisen the great
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Maybe in terms of the tech they are similar, but thematically they are totally different. The "robot" fights were secondary to what Eva was about. Don't get me wrong. I liked Pacific Rim; but it was just about watching monsters and robots punch each other.
Edit- oops. I didn't see Dtm's post above mine. |
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Rahxephon91
Posts: 1859 Location: Park Forest IL. |
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These are superficial similarities that don't add up to anything. The story, tone, and style of Pacific Rim is nothing like Eva. What they share can be summed up as "they are both giant robot" shows. That's it though, because when I think of what makes Eva, Evangelion it sure is'nt the technology or how they pilot the Evas. No, thats rather unimportant to the show. No what makes Evangelion Eva is how it's story was told. The psycho anylyzation of it's characters. Hell even the religious motifs. Style and tone. Pacific Rim is nothing like that, it is a big fun ho-ra! movie. |
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GATSU
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dtm: Evangelion copied a lot of things, particularly from other mecha anime. And the whole synching of the pilots with their robots idea is from Mazinger Z.
Rahxephon: Then you should watch Patlabor, because Eva stole those ideas from it, too. walw:
That's how I feel about Tarantino movies. |
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Beatdigga
Posts: 4388 Location: New York |
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Pacific Rim feels like Austin Powers, the first one. It didn't do great in theatres, but killed it on home video to greenlight a sequel.
Also animated series? Gypsy Danger in SRW please. |
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DavetheUsher
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What are you talking about, brah? Mecha isn't even popular in America. They barely make any cartoons or movies about mechs and when they do they tend to be unpopular and aren't very good. The only mecha anime that does well is those old hackjobs like Voltron or Robotech which rely on nostalgia from 80s kids. |
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Beatdigga
Posts: 4388 Location: New York |
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I have a theory about this actually. It's real robots that America doesn't like, while super robots like Transformers and Voltron do fine. |
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SynergyMan
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Some uncut/mostly preserved mecha is popular in, y'know. Macross Plus, Macross II, Gundam Wing, Gurren Lagann, Code Geass, Evangelion. Also mecha was shown in Superman LONG before any anime or manga was written or produced. I used the African example because it predates American rap, yet America popularized rap, while mecha is from America, while the Japanese popularized mecha. |
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dragonrider_cody
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That figure is not correct. Movie theaters only keep around 20-25% of ticket sales, and sometimes even less. Most of the money goes to the production company an distributor. There is a reason that movie theater snacks cost so much. They make up most of theaters profits. |
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levonr
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I got more of a G Gundam(1994) vibe when watching them fight in the cockpit. Special suits inside a huge cockpit where they use all their limbs to fight and any damage on the robot is inflicted on the pilot, sometimes two pilots in the cockpit. Brainwave compatibility in mecha is nothing new. Although I've never seen it as a focus like in NGE or Pacific Rim. Maybe Five Star Stories(1986)? http://www.gearsonline.net/series/fivestarstories/fatimas/ "Fatimas are necessary copilots for mortar headds and mentally merge with the computer systems of these devastating machines to control weapons, communications and other vital processes. The mental merging is so complete that shock or strain experienced by the mortar headd during combat can be damaging to a fatima. Some fatimas have died after extended or particularly brutal battles." |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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I did some research to check and you are quite right about this. For the first week or two of a movie's release the theatre will only get to keep about a quarter of the ticket revenue (depends on the exact deal, and every movie has a different deal). Although the percentage increases in subsequent weeks, that still means that for the period where the movie is making the most money the theatre is being shafted and gets to keep but a pittance. Anyway, all this means is that Pacific Rim definitely made a profit and therefore it should come as no surprise that it is getting a sequel. |
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One-Eye
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I'm actually kind of excited to see a sequel to Pacific Rim, while it wasn't a great movie and the MCs acting wasn't particularly good it still managed to be fun. Its something that movies like Man of Steel, which were too busy trying to be dark, are clueless about. And hey, no forced romance in PR was actually kind of refreshing.
If I recall correctly I think I read that PR did well in China, but not so hot in Japan. |
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Stuart Smith
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No offense, but comparing the mecha genre to random robot enemies Superman fights displays a very rudimentary understanding of what mecha anime actually is. It's not simply 'robots', it's all the tropes and norms that are associated with the genre. I'm not too surprised it didn't that well in Japan. These kinds of projects rarely do. Too much cultural difference between the countries. Even if you have the project headlined by a die hard fan, they're still just that at the end of the day: a fan. not a creator. I'm more interested in what the animation series entails. Saturday Morning Watchmen fodder or some kind of low budget internet thing like RWBY? Given I've seen people cite the toy sales as a reason it's getting a sequel consideration, I would presume the former if I had to place a bet. -Stuart Smith |
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ikillchicken
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Of course, unlike Watchmen, there's no reason whatsoever you couldn't make a family friendly animated series that was more or less right in line with the movie. It was a fairly soft PG13 and basically all for robot-on-monster violence. Animated, there's little in that movie that's higher than PG. |
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