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Suena wrote:

penguintruth wrote: Good ideas on storytelling? There wasn't any storytelling in 3.33, that's the problem with it. It was just characters sitting around, musing, and then a brief action piece followed by everybody being exactly the same as they were at the beginning of the film. Nothing. F***ing. Happens. Not plotwise, not thematically, not with character development. Nothing. It's an hour and half of nothing happening. A complete waste of time. It's an installment. Like episodes are installments of an overall series. I can think of some stretches in the TV series where not much happened...

Even as an installment, it still has to stand on its own as a movie in of itself, with some kind of narrative. The original Star Wars trilogy was a series of films, but each one was a film that, while they needed the other to be a complete story, were also films in their own right on their own.

Even the previous two Rebuild movies, while obviously dependent on a larger narrative, serving a larger narrative, were each good films as themselves. This third one is a disgrace, a complete betrayal of what the first two films built, especially the second. Three films in, the larger narrative can't afford to derail the momentum as badly as the 3.33 did. Nothing is built up. It's just a slam halt and it comes off as being nothing more than a stall until the conclusion can be finished.

I think there was something incredibly wrong with the production process and they churned out 3.33 to distract us because they realized they didn't have an ending yet, or that something was wrong with it and they scrambled to fix it. There's nothing in 3.33 that feels like it's setting the stage. Shinji is basically the same at the end of 3.33 as he is at the end of 2.22, tired of everybody's bullshit. Just like I'm tired of Anno's.

If 3.33 is dependent on 4.0 to be a good movie, then it's a complete failure. Just a popular one.

After the disaster that was 3.33, I very much doubt this series can be redeemed. They'll almost have to retcon all of 3.33 has having never happened. It was the worst thing to ever carry the Evangelion name.

Still wondering when 3.0 is coming out on dvd in America. I've been wanting to see the English dub for awhile.

Suena wrote:

penguintruth wrote: Good ideas on storytelling? There wasn't any storytelling in 3.33, that's the problem with it. It was just characters sitting around, musing, and then a brief action piece followed by everybody being exactly the same as they were at the beginning of the film. Nothing. F***ing. Happens. Not plotwise, not thematically, not with character development. Nothing. It's an hour and half of nothing happening. A complete waste of time. It's an installment. Like episodes are installments of an overall series. I can think of some stretches in the TV series where not much happened...

Even as an installment, it still has to stand on its own as a movie in of itself, with some kind of narrative. The original Star Wars trilogy was a series of films, but each one was a film that, while they needed the other to be a complete story, were also films in their own right on their own.

Even the previous two Rebuild movies, while obviously dependent on a larger narrative, serving a larger narrative, were each good films as themselves. This third one is a disgrace, a complete betrayal of what the first two films built, especially the second. Three films in, the larger narrative can't afford to derail the momentum as badly as the 3.33 did. Nothing is built up. It's just a slam halt and it comes off as being nothing more than a stall until the conclusion can be finished.

I think there was something incredibly wrong with the production process and they churned out 3.33 to distract us because they realized they didn't have an ending yet, or that something was wrong with it and they scrambled to fix it. There's nothing in 3.33 that feels like it's setting the stage. Shinji is basically the same at the end of 3.33 as he is at the end of 2.22, tired of everybody's bullshit. Just like I'm tired of Anno's.

If 3.33 is dependent on 4.0 to be a good movie, then it's a complete failure. Just a popular one.

penguintruth wrote:

After the disaster that was 3.33, I very much doubt this series can be redeemed. They'll almost have to retcon all of 3.33 has having never happened. It was the worst thing to ever carry the Evangelion name.

Well, I think it's the best movie in japanese animation since a long time.
It's a kind of "Love or hate" movie. Eva-fanboys will hate it and cry "DON'T TOUCH THE ORIGINAL STORYYYYY" and the others will be praising Hideaki Anno for his good ideas about the storytelling and all.

official story now is that they got the chance to work closely with Anno so they are now redubbing it under his guidance. perhaps Rojas will have more to talk about in a couple weeks when he does the live stream funi is planning

Apparently the English dub was not approved by the Japanese company and Funimation is re-dubbing the movie right now

Ambimunch wrote:

Apparently the English dub was not approved by the Japanese company and Funimation is re-dubbing the movie right now

You have a source for this?

There were quite a few crappy episodes of Evangelion but most people judge it as good as a whole, so why not wait and do the same thing with the movie series? That is if people can stop being so bitter, though the same thing would've happened if they just re-did the series into movies, people would've been all "I hate compilation movies why didn't we get something different?".