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NEWS: Family: Utah Man Was Cosplaying Samurai Champloo When Shot, Killed by Police

You know what I find curious? Why is it that Stuart Smith, Lavnovice, DavetheUsher (and lets be honest, Jave AKA iloveturkey if he hadn't just been banned)...literally the exact same handful of guys who constantly show up in basically every topic on the forums to somehow turn it into a question of Japanese superiority...are also the same ones who immediately rush to the forums to scoff, make excuses, and otherwise deny the existence of any sort of bigotry or racism? I just wonder what's up with that? You'd think they'd gladly spin this into their narrative: "Racist, gun crazy America! Japan is so much better!" Lord knows they do with everything else. But no, evidently, defending racism trumps their Japansturbating. Go figure.

Ironically, I wouldn't be surprised if this person defend Japan's xenophobia and racism. I'm not sure if he's aware of this

So you are saying two people from other countries are going to tell us, who live in America day to day that the cops won't shoot you while you walk around with a sword on your back? America is paranoid. If you "see something say something" has made it's rounds.

mdo7 wrote:

Ironically, I wouldn't be surprised if this person defend Japan's xenophobia and racism. I'm not sure if he's aware of this

Ironically you're the guy who always talks about Kroean superiority and never misses a beat to rag on Japan about it just like ikillchicken. Kinda ironic as well

... have a pretty skewed perception of this kind of thing I'd imagine.

Indeed, trying to explain this kind of things to amurricans is like trying to explain to some japanese why killing dolphins is bad, they are totally "You do not understand gaijin" -_-;

So you're saying it's OK for Japanese to discriminate against foreigner and throwing racism against non-Japanese Asian just like you're saying Japan is better then USA.

I don't know about everyone else but I think we should wait until all the facts come in. This is a sad story all around. I've been watching on the news about what's been going on in Ferguson,Missouri. And there are people here jumping to conclusions before all the facts are in. It's a shame that this happened. What a shame. Such a sad story.

YotaruVegeta wrote:

People have to be licensed to carry arms, and even then, you have laws about whether you have to conceal a weapon or not. Then there's a question of if you are using that weapon within your rights. Being a legal gun owner, for instance, does not mean you can go around your neighborhood holding the weapon in your hand, making the neighbors nervous.

I have given the links that talk about how it was legal for the cosplayer to have such blade. We have yet to see proof of him brandishing the weapon and I have yet to see you provide any link that says that him carrying said weapon in Utah is illegal..

Snomaster1 wrote:

I don't know about everyone else but I think we should wait until all the facts come in. This is a sad story all around. I've been watching on the news about what's been going on in Ferguson,Missouri. And there are people here jumping to conclusions before all the facts are in. It's a shame that this happened. What a shame. Such a sad story.

I am waiting to learn more, too. I don't get why this guy was shot so many times, if he was indeed running away and not posing a threat.

Or an Indian telling Americans why killing cows are bad But we do it anyway.

"In the United States it is legal to own the 3- to 5-foot-long, curved blades known as Samurai swords, but every state in the union has laws forbidding people from carrying them in public."

From the news articles I have read about this killing, the deceased was carrying an ornamental sword, not a knife. It's at least 2 feet long.

Here's part of an article I read today.

"Hunt’s aunt, Cindy Moss, previously told the Guardian that a witness to the confrontation with police had told the family that Hunt “had his earbuds in, and was kind of doing spins and stuff, like pretending he’s a samurai”."

If this is true, can I do this? Can I, an adult, go into the street and spin around with a sword? Is that legal? Is it legal to do with any bladed weapon?

lostrune wrote:

Or an Indian telling Americans why killing cows are bad But we do it anyway.

So he was doing a performance with a blunt sword and was killed for it? He might have broken the law if the county requires any street performer to ask for permission and maybe pay a fee. Yes, you should be able to legally do the same, but in soviet amurrica you too can be killed for it (supposing race had nothing to do with the incident).

Hey, This street performer also used a blade for his act

Just because I quote something from a place other than the direct source does not necessarily mean that it's incorrect. Whether what I quoted was right or wrong, the point is that there are limits to your lawful ownership of a bladed weapon. I cannot live in Utah, own a butterfly knife, then go into a supermarket, stabbing the air. Not even if I am cosplaying. As far as I know, there is no costume clause in Utah weapons law.

By the way, how are you turning this into a "performance?"

Now if he took it further than just being a cosplayer who happened to carry a sword, we need to know.

Lets review the facts:

1) He was wearing a costume (which btw, did not cover his face)
2) He in broad daylight on an open space near a popular venue, but not inside a parking lot or private space.

If he was cutting some air with his sword, that is what I call a performance. I he did no unsheath his sword at all, then he was just walking in the street like any private citizen.
What is clear to me is that he wanted to be seen by people and to be recognized.

When people go crazy (like I have read so many times happens in the USA) killing people, they do not wear a costume and they either get some firearm(s) and/or some other weapon they can conceal (not a sword, which albeit intimidating, it is unpractical; they can be disarmed by a mere police baton). This incident does not fit the profile of an insane individual attempting to kill as many people as possible.

I mean yeah, this is very rampart in Japan: