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NEWS: Bookstore Moves Manga Section after Parent's Complaint


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Ghiblix2



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:43 pm Reply with quote
Wow someone is overreacting. This kinds of stuff is really and fundamentally American. What a prude she is to act so oversensitive over something like a little nudity, I'm sure her kid will have it much worse when he walks in on her and the husband having sex-- unless of course they never do, which would explain her reaction Smile

Nevertheless, it was just beyond stupid for the bookstore to put themselves in that situation, although I doubt it was intentional.
The fact that this even made news is just sad.
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Son Biggie



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:46 pm Reply with quote
the manga isn't for kids but at the same time it isn't a porn book as the woman is trying to make it out to be but yeah who in there right mind would put a book like that with the kids books....
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MomonoYume



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:48 pm Reply with quote
*rolls eyes* First off, having worked in a book store for years, it's common place for patrons to leave adult books all over the children's sections. It was likely just left there by a customer, and not the fault of the bookstore itself.

Second off, a manga is NOT animation! I guess having kids lowers the IQ of some parents, or either she was stupid to start with.

Third off, the words quoted from her were characteristic of people who abhor anything japanese as *porn*. Like we need more judgemental people like her in the world.

Fourth off, good riddance. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:51 pm Reply with quote
Son Biggie wrote:
the manga isn't for kids but at the same time it isn't a porn book as the woman is trying to make it out to be but yeah who in there right mind would put a book like that with the kids books....


Ok here's a big difference to remember. She did not have the title moved. She whined until the whole SECTION was moved. So because one title is racy and some kids tosses it somewhere else we should move the entire section of mostly otherwise unobjectionable material? Well in that case better move the sci-fi section at my Borders away from being near the kids section. God knows we don't want some idiot to drop a Laurel K. Hamilton novel in there.
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:04 pm Reply with quote
Bah, AB is no worse than what that kid would catch on a rerun of Friends.
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Hi no Neko



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:20 pm Reply with quote
MomonoYume wrote:
Second off, a manga is NOT animation! I guess having kids lowers the IQ of some parents, or either she was stupid to start with.


I think the thing is that she wasn't confusing comics with animation, but rather just not knowing the word "manga". More people are familiar with Japanese cartoons on TV than Japanese cartoons on paper. Heck, I've even met some people at anime conventions who weren't clear on what the difference between anime and manga were.

As for the story itself . . . for one, the mom is dumb for pitching a hissy fit over something like that. Chances are the kid passed a bunch of art-history books with nudes on them on the way to the kid section, and I kind of doubt her child was actually looking through the book itself.

And for another, whoever left/put the book there is dumb for leaving/putting it there. I'd say it's either some forgetful person leaving it there or some prankster . . . all but the most absent-minded employee would realize that Naked Guy + Kid Section = Not A Good Idea.

As for my own experience, manga has always been in or near the sci-fi section, no matter which store I went to. In a few, shoujo found it's way in the Young Adult section. Outside of the Pokemon comics, I've never seen manga in a children section.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:30 pm Reply with quote
Most of the bookstores I have gone to have SciFi on one side, art on the other, and either romance or history on the third side. With the how to achieve the ultimate orgasm section not to far away. Either way they are always well away from the kids section. I say if in fact the manga was right next to the kids section then it is probably a good idea to relocate the section elsewhere and away from that particular section. This probably was just some silly mistake, but hopefully it will wake up the companies that already haven't moved the section away from the kids section to do so now. That way it covers all bases. As long as all bookstores keep the section away from the kids section than there are no more problems, even if a stray book is found in the kids section. Otherwise they would have to get rid of the orgasm section aswell. So really it is the stores own damn fault.
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Rei Sentoki



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:00 pm Reply with quote
Hey, the last time I was forced to peruse the "children's" section of a bookstore, there was an Osprey book on the uniforms of the Ubootwaffe (World War II Nazi German submarine crews). I can just imagine how some "protect the children" flake would react to that.

Still, I figure it’s only a matter of time before some nut from that sort of crowd takes a look into some of "those kiddy comics" their precious little hellions are reading at the "free manga library" of ye olde local bookstore, and starts a holy book-banning crusade.
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Crawly



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:18 pm Reply with quote
The BAM down in T'hassee, FL has started making an attempt to segregate adult/16+ manga titles from general reading titles. Unfortunately, it's being done by individuals who have no idea what they're doing. To begin with, the older reading section isn't marked in any way. Well, that's not true. It's marked "romance." I didn't know Lone Wolf and Cub was a romance title, but I digress. Anyhow, the folks stocking this section have no clue what any of the titles are about and are just general idiots when it comes to manga. So while most of the explicit yaoi and ultra violent titles winds up over there, so do things like Kashimashi, Nana, and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Loveless, on the other hand, sits firmly in the general reading section and on the display stands. Guess pedophilic yaoi is okay, but yaoi featuring adults isn't. <shrug>

Regardless, I like the idea of putting older reading in the Sci-fi area (but marked as "Manga - Older Readers") and general audience in the young adult area (similarly labeled). There just needs to be some order to it rather than random guessing and bias based on sales.
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Not a Jellyfish



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:39 pm Reply with quote
From someone who works in a bookstore, currently, I think this is actually a serious issue. But not in the way it seems. I think the problem comes down to Corporate headquarters not understanding what manga is, etc., so problems like this occur. It's a trickle down effect to the employees because neither of them are educated about the products. There are times when I've actually changed the section in which a specific manga title belongs in the computer so that the older employees and employees who don't understand manga, won't put it in a bad section. Being the ONLY employee who reads manga at my bookstore, it's actually really hard to educate all of the employees about it. I'm still having a problem getting them to understand that the books are "backwards", and when they make a face-out of a book in the section to "keep the pretty picture out, and the text in". If normal employees can't even understand this, then how would customers? With the extremely rising popularity of manga, I think this should be a call to Corporate leaders to take action to become educated about their products and then educate the employees. You wouldn't sell a product your completely unfamiliar with. So, just because it's still just a book, doesn't mean that they don't deserve special attention. The smaller bookstore I used to work at wouldn't even be in business anymore if it weren't for manga. It's a huge industry and I really think it's time that CEO's start doing their jobs.

/rant.
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CCSYueh



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:42 pm Reply with quote
I seem to recall a Home Depot or Walmart in the south decided to put loincloths on their garden statues about a year ago over a complaint.

Really it is a stupid issue since the book would have a rating which should govern the placement of the book by employees or cover the bookstore if it's just customers abandoning it in the wrong place
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Varks



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:00 pm Reply with quote
The way i see it, one look at a naked manga character isn't going to scare that kid for life. Heck, seeing his parents naked has a better shot then that. I use to work at a Books-A-Million and they are very careful about stuff like that. I was probably just a case of a customer just puting it there instead of putting it back. I think people are just making a big deal about something small.
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Hybridchild



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:16 pm Reply with quote
What i find really sad about this story is that there are still towns without bookstores Neutral
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Luminesse



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:25 pm Reply with quote
That manga really shouldn't have been in the kid's section--the Chapter's near my house separates the manga between child and mature titles. But the kid's mother did over react by vowing never to return to the store.
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LydiaDianne



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:26 pm Reply with quote
Shawaazu wrote:
I knew a cover like that would stir up trouble. I agree with what others have said, it is definitely not a children's title.


I've seen worse covers than that one. Let's start with some of the Tenjho Tenge covers.
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