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Hollerama



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:09 pm Reply with quote
I'm loving Rednal's answer to the question of the week Laughing
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Back in the 80's and up until earlier this decade, the notion that anime was all a bunch of violent pornographic Chinese cartoons designed to corrupt young minds and titilate horrible perverts was pretty much the norm among your average American.

I wonder how come Americans thought Chinese were involved. Rolling Eyes Even in-betweeners were mostly, if not all, Japanese back then.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:36 pm Reply with quote
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Back in the 80's and up until earlier this decade, the notion that anime was all a bunch of violent pornographic Chinese cartoons designed to corrupt young minds and titilate horrible perverts was pretty much the norm among your average American.

I wonder how come Americans thought Chinese were involved. Rolling Eyes Even in-betweeners were mostly, if not all, Japanese back then.


The joke (based all too much in reality) is that Westerners often can't tell the difference between Asian ethnicities, and the more ethnocentric American yokels can't even distinguish in their minds between the different Asian countries.

It's a stereotype, but until one has met a real college professor in Ohio who thought that India was in Africa somewhere (because their SKIN IS DARKER) one really has no idea how far down on the evolve-o-meter some Americans' world view really is.


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Anime World Order



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:36 pm Reply with quote
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I wonder how come Americans thought Chinese were involved. Rolling Eyes Even in-betweeners were mostly, if not all, Japanese back then.


It's because we by and large do not bother to make any distinctions between Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and so on and so forth. Sort of like how it's rather common for everyone from Central and South America to be lumped in as "Mexican." I'm not saying I agree with it (I being of East Indian descent am not terribly keen on being mistaken for an Arab), but it is what it is.

Also, preemptive strike...if anyone read this and is ready to post in heated response to it:

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Anime heroes, especially in giant robot shows (which I assume we can all trace back to Evangelion) do come across as more emotionally raw than, say, Superman or Iron Man.


I think it's safe to assume that's a joke.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:38 pm Reply with quote
Funny, I'm shaking and drooling with anticipation for a movie that opens Friday too, but it's Mamma Mia!

I'll see The Dark Knight on cheapie Tuesday, but I'm a fan of the Burton films who wasn't that all enamored by Batman Begins, so my anticipation is a bit muted compared to most people.


Also, it's probably a lot safer for girls to admit that they've felt "moé" for a real life person than it is for guys, especially if they're over the age of 18.
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Kenotic



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:39 pm Reply with quote
Moe and emo - they're anagrams! They also seem to mean whatever the author wants them to mean. If emo = showing any negative emotion, moe seems to mean "anything cute."
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:43 pm Reply with quote
The Dark Knight its very good, I saw it last sunday (Thanks WB!) too bad the actor who played the Joker died, it was a really really good Joker.

and for the Watchmen, where can I see the trailer?


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Kimyo



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:59 pm Reply with quote
I've started considering myself emo, but I guess I use it differently than most. I use it to mean my mind is full of grim thoughts. Someone at school called me emo. I'm the type of girl who doesn't smile unless she's really happy or caught off-guard. I've also started to think of emo as referring to bishies!

moe=cute, sweet girls
emo=cute, thoughtful boys

at least, that's how I use the words.

Anyhoo, I missed out on answering last week's question, so I'll say right here that I'd like to live in a Bishie-tastic anime, like Princess Princess, Sukisho, Pico to Chico or Kyo Kara Maoh ('cause Yuri is there and you can always believe in him) or maybe Pokemon, which seems like a safe, fun, all-around delightful place to live.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:07 am Reply with quote
I am soooo glad that I'm not the only person who thinks "emo" is an overly used word. I honesty get irritated almost everytime I hear it.

I'm ashamed to say that if you just put a Japanese person and Chinese person right next to each other, I probably couldn't tell the difference. Unless they spoke their respective languages. Then it would be pretty easy.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:21 am Reply with quote
jsevakis wrote:
dormcat wrote:
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Back in the 80's and up until earlier this decade, the notion that anime was all a bunch of violent pornographic Chinese cartoons designed to corrupt young minds and titilate horrible perverts was pretty much the norm among your average American.

I wonder how come Americans thought Chinese were involved. Rolling Eyes Even in-betweeners were mostly, if not all, Japanese back then.


The joke (based all too much in reality) is that Westerners often can't tell the difference between Asian ethnicities, and the more ethnocentric American yokels can't even distinguish in their minds between the different Asian countries.

It's a stereotype, but until one has met a real college professor in Ohio who thought that India was in Africa somewhere (because their SKIN IS DARKER) one really has no idea how far down on the evolve-o-meter some Americans' world view really is.


I just had this happen,yesterday,AGAIN.I'm done explaining the obvious differences.There are those of us who just simply live on a different plain of reality.It also informs you of their understanding and skill level on the subject.Is there any justice in correcting them? I don't feel that there is.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:33 am Reply with quote
Oddly enough there have been times when I've felt moe towards other people, and a good number of them have been under 18. I will go no further. I love the flakes, but one wonders sometimes whether these people are actually serious with what they're writing or not.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:33 am Reply with quote
That rant about the overuse of the term "emo" is dead on. It's so funny how everybody seems to expect, thanks to many of the insanely obnoxious crazy types in anime, that every person thrust into a difficult situation to be excited and happy with whatever happens.

I'm glad there are characters like Shinji Ikari in anime which are a closer to life representation to how a fourteen year old boy is likely to react to his situation, not as someone watching the show would.
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zanarkand princess



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:48 am Reply with quote
Don't we all feel moe for shinji ikari? No well how about kaoru?
I have felt moe for a person before it was more like the way the quiet able to take care of herself girl in a harem anime feels for the main character (Oh someone needs to help this poor boy out. He's so very lost.) As for the overuse of emo I do agree it's overused does it even mean the same thing anymore?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 am Reply with quote
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I think Pokémon is an absolutely brilliant series. Children are booted out of their house at a young age and made to trek around the world


...without ever having to go to school too. I think that most of the "trainers" on that show are 10-12 years old. Ah well, if you have a Pikachu by your side, who needs edjumacation and book-learnin'?
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blind_assassin



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:09 am Reply with quote
jsevakis wrote:
dormcat wrote:
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Back in the 80's and up until earlier this decade, the notion that anime was all a bunch of violent pornographic Chinese cartoons designed to corrupt young minds and titilate horrible perverts was pretty much the norm among your average American.

I wonder how come Americans thought Chinese were involved. Rolling Eyes Even in-betweeners were mostly, if not all, Japanese back then.


The joke (based all too much in reality) is that Westerners often can't tell the difference between Asian ethnicities, and the more ethnocentric American yokels can't even distinguish in their minds between the different Asian countries.

It's a stereotype, but until one has met a real college professor in Ohio who thought that India was in Africa somewhere (because their SKIN IS DARKER) one really has no idea how far down on the evolve-o-meter some Americans' world view really is.


I've met not one, but TWO people that thought that Japan was the capital city of China. I'll admit to terrible geography at times (until a few years ago I thought Bermuda was close to the Caribbean) but when you start combining countries it's pretty awful.

And about the emo thing, I tend to use it when it's at least somewhat appropriate. Shinji, for example, is in fact emo. No matter how you use it, he's emo. He questions the value of his life, is socially retarded because of how sad he is, cries constantly, and is generally a wimp. The only way to get more emo is to wear eyeliner and dress in tight black clothes for shitty bands that broke up in the late 90s.

Kira, on the other hand, is a whiny bitch. The situations in which he actually cries tend to at least be enough to dodge an emo label (though he really didn't have much reason to cry when he "killed" Waltfelt) but he always languishes around acting all sad and then just kills everything. You figure that by the end of the show (or even into Destiny for god's sake) he'd man up enough to at least only cry every other episode.
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