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Fronzel
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It's true; the Vegeta fight is the best fight in the whole series. It's a shame that's it's kind of all downhill from here (though not without its charms). I don't know why they (or rather he, Toriyama?) didn't learn from the success here.
DBZ is seriously and humiliatingly made obsolete by DB Kai, though. There's just no reason to put up with all that time-wasting. Last edited by Fronzel on Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:19 am; edited 1 time in total |
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penguintruth
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You've got to be kidding me. Compared to the Japanese cast, the English cast couldn't act their way out of a paper bag. Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat especially sucked when this dub was made. Schemmel sounds like Goku is having a heart attack half the time and Sabat's characters nearly all sound the same. And if you think that accuracy to the original script is something that can just be ignored, I seriously call to question your taste. Last edited by penguintruth on Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:19 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Are you saying that... you don't like the English dub of Dragon Ball Z, forums user penguintruth? Is that what you're getting at here? Because I think I may have missed it the other 800 BILLION TIMES YOU HARPED ON THIS ISSUE. |
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penguintruth
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It always feels necessary.
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The American Average
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Otaking09
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Can I just say that Gundam SEED is better than UC Gundams, please? (but not as great as Turn A...) 
But seriously penguintruth, is, dare I say, anal-retentive accuracy of "the original version" when it comes to... everything, really such a necessity? I mean, honoring the intent, if not playing with the spirit of what the original means seems to be more important. It's like what Carl said: Nostalgia plays a big part. Kids/teens didn't care about the reasons DBZ allured them, but a hearty, more accessible dub did, and the same goes for most of Funi's early dubs. I guess, to avoid calling you a troll, I'll just ask: What do you want? |
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Gasero
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He doesn't want anything, he just wants to complain and sound elitist because he saw the "original" version. The Dragonball, Dragonball Z, and Dragonball GT english dubs are fine. Dialog is changed because local colloquialisms do not always work. While I do not agree with changing things like guns and rice balls, changing dialog is a necessity because audiences and language does not always transfer well. Besides, there is no way I would have been able to watch DBZ and listen to a high pitch voiced Goku (and a few other characters) without laughing. |
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KabaKabaFruit
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Kai's violence is censored. |
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doctordoom85
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Not to mention Kai, from what I understand, also removes the filler arcs and episodes, which is not what I want. Fix the padding, sure, but leave the filler alone as for shonen filler it's pretty good stuff. I'm not saying it's always on fire (fake Namek, anyone?), but most of the time I enjoy the story and some of them give the supporting cast more time in the spotlight. I also can't agree that it's all downhill from here. The Android/Cell arc is my favorite arc, and while it's drawn out to long in the anime, the Frieza fight is excellent in the manga. |
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penguintruth
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You're understating the inaccuracy of the DBZ English dub. It often entirely changes the intent of a scene, puts dialogue in where there wasn't any, and completely rewrites some of the characters. Not to mention it's so poorly acted it's laughable.
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KabaKabaFruit
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I will admit that Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat are good actors but I do agree that their respective performances as Goku and Vegeta were laughable at best and face-palm worthy at worst. People are forgetting that they came onto the scene in order to imitate the performances of Ian James Corlett and Brian Drummond instead of reworking the voices that best fit the character. |
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baadaku12345
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It leaves out the entire last saga, so I don't think it made Z obsolete.
I can't listen to such unnatural gruff dub voices without laughing. |
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NJ_
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Fixed! |
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sainta
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The pacing in this arc was kind of good for my taste. However, the pacing in the Namek arc gets really slow with 30 episodes (I'm not kidding) required for the complete fight against Frieza
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Fronzel
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I hadn't heard about that, but I can't find a straight answer about it through google. Did I mix up my memories of severed limbs spurting blood from Z when I remember watching Kai?
Drop padding....leave filler? I guess you mean the most shameless of the time-wasting, things like the very frequent slow pans over people standing doing nothing and once-an-episode scenes of someone flying saying "I have to hurry!"? Regardless, I have to say good riddance to the filler. They absolutely wreck the pacing. Everything takes too long! I like Dragon Ball pulp, but whenever I watched Z I'd get tired of it after a little while because it was harping on action-suspense without paying off in a timely manner.
I have my problems with that arc (characters reduced to one-dimensional stereotypes and/or inexplicably acting like idiots) but I meant that the best sustained fight sequence (in the anime) is Vegeta vs. Goku et al. The Android/Cell arc doesn't come close in that regard and the Frieza fight starts out quite cold before finally heating up nicely when all the distractions and posturing have finally been dispensed with.
And the entire last saga is....never mind. But I guess you're right, in the future when those yet born watch Kai and like it, they can be told "there's more although it takes forever for it to get anything done". |
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