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Mr. Oshawott
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Oh, man... There really are videos of Japanese kids being subjected to those kinds of torment??? If that's the case, then it seems that the idol industry in Japan is really messed up, big time. It seems that they may have unwittingly found themselves in the same harrowing predicament that some kids in the U.S. have been in under a certain pageant show...only worse. There really has got to be some sort of regulation of the idol industry present to outlaw any exploitative measures of children of any sort (yes, that also includes subjecting a child to playing Twister with an adult). |
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mdo7
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If Yause's statement is correct (Yause, do you have link backing this up??), then it's worser then I thought. 
May someone in the JPN govt take this cases more seriously?? |
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CrowLia
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Nope, sorry. No time to waste on little kids getting exploited, too busy taking care of dangerous felons ilegally uploading One Piece episodes on the internet |
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Sora11111
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I registered and will post about the subject since the topic is full off bullshit.
First i am a lolicon and i have read more then enough to educate myself about harm to children. Nr 1. there is no peer review article out there that does not indicate that it is abnormal to be obsessed with prepubescent children. None, at all. Since there is no biological reason to be interested in them other then raising and teaching. Note: we are talking about medical term of pedophilia which means prepubescent, most 12 yo do not go under that category and some 11 year olds as their breasts and hips and stuff start to develop and giving the girl woman like attributes. Those who are obsessed with that stuff have problems in their brain, might not be pedophilia, might be other things (large part of child molesting is not done by pedophiles), but it is abnormal in almost every way. Only question is what brought to that abnormality. Can we satisfy that abnormality are real questions but to involve real children is closing to 100% wrong. Nr 2. Even when all the above is not the case, subjecting a child's mind to such a fame and celebrity culture at a very young age is devastating, most of them end up on drugs and depression since they didn't get right inputs as they are children for proper brain chemistry. If you see a 6 yo in American Idol impressing everyone, you should be discussed and feel sorry for that child as he's life might be disaster. Most of the celebrities and politicians just are marketed well even thou their life is pretty shit. Nr 3. and 4. Japanese leadership is very corrupt. The higher in hierarchy in society you go the more psychopaths you see (1/4 of corporation CEOs are psychopaths). Combine the 2 and there WILL be people who will just abuse children (not sexually) to gain profit from a certain demographic. And that demographic is high considering how hostile Japanese culture is to people who are a bit different to norm. A lot of people into anime do not realize anime and the idol thing are NOT mainstream in any shape or form. Child idol things are not approved by mainstream, it is NOT "Japanese culture" its just the corrupt and nasty part that allows it to go on for profit. It would be like saying yeah mass murder is Sweden's thing because he they had Anders Behring Breivik. Nr 5. As stated above the "cultural thing" is a bullshit argument. There are things that are more likely to be true then others (that is some thing are true and false, if you make a claim you can scientifically test it to prove it). And defending it as "Japanese culture" does not give it right to exist. Those children involved in that industry are in danger, abused and used that is a fact, do quick google search and you get the stuff you need to confirm how fucked up this thing is (you can start from Wikipedia as it cites peer reviewed research, which you can read and progress further from). Sry for bad English, not main language. And i fap to lolis, jury is out if the lolicon material is harmful or not (the stuff that says it helps to prevent abuse is unreliable and just guess without proper research). Collecting pictures of real girls to fap is bad, since you click with intent to get sexual content, creating demand and demand creates supply (which can involve child abuse, mild or hard). Ofc all my points are free to be criticized or/and corrected. |
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Yause
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It was several years ago, and I can't find the exact links (which mainly discussed irresponsible parenting and mentioned male elementary idols as well) in question, but a Google search brought up an article on something similar. http://www.japantoday.com/category/lifestyle/view/innocence-lost-the-dark-side-of-akihabara http://www.onemickjones.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8746 (repost of the Japan Today article) TBH, I'm not a fan of the anti-Japan sentiments that these topics tend to raise since they unfairly generalize an entire nation. As the article suggests, lots of people disapprove, so this view of children isn't inherent to their culture. Nevertheless, the apathy toward addressing issues of exploitation is a concern.
From what I understand, the videos are fairly innocuous - no label will openly sell something depicting abuse. However, what happens when you place a very young child at the shallow end of a swimming pool, and he/she gets unwantedly splashed or inadvertently goes underwater for a few seconds while they are filming? At any rate, it's highly unlikely that young children can give informed consent to produce these things. They're just doing what their parents tell them to do. |
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TarsTarkas
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No, it is not a Japanese thing. Strangers are strangers, even in Japan. It is an economic and parent thing. There are many reasons, why parents do such things. If you are poor, this may be a way to rise above poverty. Some parents are naive, ignorant, or simply accept this sacrifice as a means of getting money. Worse things have been done to children, to get money for drugs. So it is not unheard of. Forget the twister picture, Kikaioh's picture of the guy holding up the girl is the worst. With his hips thrust forward and his torso arc'd back, he has her in a classic porn pose. There is no mistaking his intentions in posing her in this manner. That is what is so sicking about how this idol group is managed. The fans shouldn't be allowed to manhandle them like they are doing now. |
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Mr. Oshawott
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Oh, yes, agreed, I find that guy [wearing the bright red shirt] to be even more repulsive. I wouldn't put it past him that this perverted man may have done this to other kids in the past. |
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mdo7
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Thanks for the link, but yeah it's pretty disturbing when I read that article. The question is: has it gotten worse?? 
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kanechin
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not surprising to hear that the jpn govt won't do anything about junior idols.
Heard when they passed their cp ban they didn't include junior idols but some of those d1cks still want to get rid of loli fanservice in anime/manga/vns. |
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