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bassgs435



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:46 am Reply with quote
T Quatermass wrote:
Of the recent TV fare:

Cross Ange: If sadism and rape are you thing, you might enjoy this show. But, this show is only for those who enjoy hating the characters they're watching. I would like to describe it as Game of Thrones without the hope. No doubt, watching it will make a you bad person if you're not already.

Oh wow. I didn't know I was a bad person for watching and enjoying a TV show. Everyone who knows me says I'm a nice guy, but clearly you know better, mr Unknown from the Interenet. Clearly you know me better than me and everyone who knows me does because of my preference in anime.
Now without sarcasm
I don't appreciate suggesting that people who like certain TV shows are bad people for watching and liking them.
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MajinAkuma



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:15 am Reply with quote
DuelGundam2099 wrote:

-Fate/Stay Night and Zero: Both are the worst adaptions of any eroge ever complete with: Far too much talking, too much filler, bad music, absolutely dreadful pacing, forced drama, bland characters, and a lack of memorable moments. I barely kept up with all the nonsense and by the end I felt like these should have been movies and even the Unlimited Blade Works movie STILL had most of these errors after so much was cut out. I consider Zero worse for one reason: In consistent run times. No, I don't want flashbacks of some guy taking up a full episode, no I don't want it to extend to another ten minutes, no I don't want more pointless bickering about nothing, no I don't want some boring subplot about Saber losing control of her thumb (why the hell was that even in this story?), no I don't want some woman having her arm gunned off and the writing going "look we're smart duh hur hur", etc. Since they were eroge adaptions they don't get a proper score, but if I did I'd give them a 1/10.

Fate/zero isn't an eroge to begin with. It's a Light Novel. So, you do have no idea.

DuelGundam2099 wrote:

-Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha: Mostly the same as Puni Puni Poemii, but much tamer and Fate's mom was a decent villain. However, this series has failed miserably at being a monster of the week series and acted lazy about it (making a tree with vagina dentata a monster does not make). Either you stick with it or not even start. 2/10 and no I haven't seen the movies.

It's not a Monster of the Week series. This concept has only been used for the first three episodes of the first season. See, you do have no idea.
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TarsTarkas



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:24 am Reply with quote
Wingbeats wrote:
Someone mentioned Diabolik Lovers and I realized I had successfully blotted it out of my mind and forgotten it.

Yeah no THAT'S easily one of the worst anime I've seen in recent memory. Yeah, otome game adaptations have the issue of vapid, empty protagonists.....but never has a single character INFURIATED ME SO MUCH as the girl in DL. I can't believe I watched as much of it as I did.


It would have been a better series if it had been revenge porn. I can still imagine all that vampire blood flying around, as she killed each and every vampire in the show. They all deserved to die, and the show should have ended with her, with a bloody, gleeful smile at the end.
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Akane the Catgirl



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:01 am Reply with quote
@MajinAkuma

Spoilered for controversy.

spoiler[Just looking at that paragraph makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time. Like, there is so much critical research failure, pretension, bias, and ignorance in there that it makes me want to bang my head against a wall. Look, I try to be nice, but that guy's always been kind of negative and mean to me. He IS a mecha fanboy (and from the wretched hive called 4chan, I think), and if he stuck to mecha, I wouldn't care so much, but you know...

Yeah. I don't like being called stupid by someone who's part of a fandom that has a history of misogyny in it. =(]


I need a puppy.



I feel better now. It's just that I'm sleep-deprived and having a pretty bad day, so puppies. I like puppies. =)
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Rederoin



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:09 am Reply with quote
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It's not a Monster of the Week series. This concept has only been used for the first three episodes of the first season. See, you do have no idea.

I think him listing Kill la Kill, Nanoha and supporting a ban on certain anime made it a rather obvious troll or somebody trying to stir shit up.
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:04 am Reply with quote
Someone who's incredibly angry and frustrated can be like that too; they kind of stop caring what other people think and prioritize their desires at the expense of anyone else.
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Chiibi



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:45 am Reply with quote
T Quatermass wrote:
Of the recent TV fare:

Cross Ange: If sadism and rape are you thing, you might enjoy this show. But, this show is only for those who enjoy hating the characters they're watching. I would like to describe it as Game of Thrones without the hope. No doubt, watching it will make a you bad person if you're not already.

Any show existing only for loli fanservice: There seem to be too many fitting this terrible trend. Regardless of technical quality or other qualities, I submit them for the title of worst for moral reasons, along with Cross Ange. Just bad ideas. Some examples would KnJ and Asteroth's Toy.


If you think Kodomo No Jikan "exists ONLY for loli fanservice", you are DEAD WRONG.

It is a drama that deals with not only the psyche of children but also adults. Yes, there is loli fanservice in there but that's NOT the only reason the series exists; it has so much more interesting things to offer. Please at least research this before you bash it.


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No doubt, watching it will make a you bad person if you're not already.

I haven't seen Cross Ange but to state such a thing is utterly ridiculous and close-minded and you should feel bad for even typing that.
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DuelGundam2099



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:38 pm Reply with quote
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If sadism and rape are you thing, you might enjoy this show

Except there was barley any in it and not the main focus.
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No doubt, watching it will make a you bad person if you're not already.

Nice trolling.
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It can't objectively be called bad. With the top notch artwork, animation, voice acting, and music, it is simply objectively good (or well done, if you'd prefer).

Except none of that was any good so yes I can and will call it bad.
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So, you do have no idea.

I like the part where you ignored my statement on them being in the same continuity and therefore counts.
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This concept has only been used for the first three episodes of the first season.

And an episode in the middle with the vagina dentata tree.
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Just looking at that paragraph makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time. Like, there is so much critical research failure, pretension, bias, and ignorance in there that it makes me want to bang my head against a wall. Look, I try to be nice, but that guy's always been kind of negative and mean to me. He IS a mecha fanboy (and from the wretched hive called 4chan, I think), and if he stuck to mecha, I wouldn't care so much, but you know...

Yeah. I don't like being called stupid by someone who's part of a fandom that has a history of misogyny in it. =(]

Where do I begin with this?

1. State the research "failure" and ignorance.
2. I have not been negative or mean toward you.
3. 4chan is not a hive, in fact it is the polar opposite, very rarely can anyone agree on anything AT ALL.
4. I want to expand my horizons, there are other interests I have beyond mecha.
5. I never called you stupid.
6. A fandom with misogyny? Details please.
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I think him listing Kill la Kill, Nanoha and supporting a ban on certain anime made it a rather obvious troll or somebody trying to stir shit up.

Or they are my real opinions.
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prioritize their desires at the expense of anyone else.

What expense? Opinions on a piece of work have no effect on your mind, body, or soul (at least it shouldn't). I see opinions I disagree with all the time but I don't go around saying they are detrimental for stating them. Sure I'll disagree or ask why, but I won't be boorish about it.
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Rederoin



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:03 pm Reply with quote
DuelGundam2099 wrote:

Or they are my real opinions.

Which are still laughable. Like you have never actually seen the bottom of the barrel(Pupa, Vampire holmes etc..)
But thats okay, the world needs people like you to make forums more entertaining. You're doing a good job, son!
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DuelGundam2099



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:04 pm Reply with quote
Actually I did see Pupa and I thought it was kind of good.
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Jose Cruz



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:35 pm Reply with quote
Some of mine:

Dragon Age: Dawn of the Seeker videogame adaptations always tend to be awful (with the exceptions of visual novel adaptations like Fate Zero and Clannad: Afterstory, in these cases a visual novel is more of a novel than a game since writing comes first) but this one was certainly special. It's a CGI movie of the worst kind with horrible animation, characters that look like statues and is as dull as watching paint dry. I also watched the English version. It was based on a Western game and written by a person with an English language name, however, it was made in Japan so it classifies as anime.

Baoh: So bad, but so bad, it is actually good! I actually found it funny to watch and it was really laughable. Overall most of the bad anime that has been made consists of OVA's from the late 1980's and early 1990's. It truly reaches the apex of bad taste in titles like Baoh. The art and animation are actually good by the way, in fact, OVAs usually have superior art and animation compared to TV series which spread their budget over a much longer volume of animation.

I would include among recent series perhaps the one I disliked the most include titles like Super Sonico and Sakura Trick. They are not as bad as those two ubermasterpieces of badness above.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:41 pm Reply with quote
Akane the Catgirl wrote:

I need a puppy.

[...] so puppies. I like puppies. =)

I'll take your puppy and raise you . . . by four!



Now, where's that damned soy sauce?!
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Jose Cruz



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:48 pm Reply with quote
jymmy wrote:
dtm42 wrote:
Kodomo no Jikan. It may not have bad animation or lip synching, but in terms of being an revolting piece of garbage with no redeeming features there is no equal to KnJ in all of anime.

Maybe I'm biased because I think the manga's pretty good, and is a personal favourite of mine – when I watched the compilation OVA after reading the manga for the first time, I was less impressed than I think I was watching the anime originally – but this seems a bit strong.
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I agree with your analysis. I watched the OVA's and compilation movie of Kodomo no Jinkan and found it pretty funny, entertaining with occasional strong emotional reaction. It's a good example of how good things can exist even if they do not fit with western cultural norms.
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Akane the Catgirl



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:42 pm Reply with quote
@DuelGundam

1. Let me start with...

A) That some guy was the main character, though you'd be forgiven, since this is an ensemble cast. And it was two flashback episodes, which explained how his attitudes as a mercenary assassin came to be.
B) It wasn't Saber's thumb, it was her ENTIRE FREAKING ARM. It was injured by a weapon that made sure Irisviel's healing wouldn't normally work. On a story level, it was to incapacitate her so nobody could die too early. (Thanks a lot, Nasu.)
C) That some woman was named Sola-Ui, and she was the fiancée to Lancer's a-hole master. Her hand was chopped off because it had the command seals used to control him on it.

There's this thing called paying attention. Try it sometime. -_-

Also, explain how the objective quality is terrible without whining. I don't recall any off-model or just plain ugly moments, the acting was pretty good (though the dub script can be too literal at times), and Yuki Kajiura's score was just as good as Kawai's. Is it just because you don't want to admit that stuff you don't like can be *gasp* well-produced?

Also, it doesn't matter if they are part of the same continuity or not. The point of an adaptation is to stand alone, and since you're refusing to let it stand alone, the problem is with you. Somehow you have managed to do the medium equivalent of slut-shaming. (By the way, I don't really care about Nasu's work, only Urobuchi's.)

2. You're probably the biggest Negative Nancy I've ever met. Like, I can compare two separate paragraphs on two shows you have completely opposite opinions on, and the negative review will be twice as long and filled with more flames per sentence.

3. Don't tell me you're so ignorant that you didn't see that was a Star Wars reference. I haven't even seen any of the movies, by the way.

4. Well, good for you. But still, I don't think it's a coincidence that your highest rated shows on MyAnimeList are either mecha shows or stylistically cool but thematically bankrupt shows. (I like Death Note, but it's not really that smart.)

5. Yeah, you kind of are. Even if you didn't intend to, you have. Using "sheeple" pretty much infers that people who didn't agree with you are stupid. Like I said, I don't like being called stupid.

6. Name five mecha anime that have a female protagonist. I can only come up with one. Also, I have enough experience to know how awful most nerd cultures can be towards women, but modern mecha in particular is really disgusting.

Look, I believe your opinions are real. After all, most trolls are more subtle the way they go about their businesses. It's the flamish way you express yourself that makes you a troll. Those anime you listed are just stuff you dislike, not objectively bad. Separate your facts and opinions, and learn to shut up if you don't want to be accused of being a troll.
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If anyone here believes that that a user is behaving in an unacceptable manner, then please report the post -- do not accuse them of being a troll (or acting in a troll-like manner) here in the forums.

Thank you.
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