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TJ_Kat
Posts: 368 Location: Saskatoon, Canada |
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after seeing a few things on the list of items that are perfectly legal for purchase in the us, but are confiscated if you try to bring them into canada, personally, i'm amazed my uncut version of kite wasn't confiscated at the border. it's much worse than some things that do get confiscated. |
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pparker
Posts: 1185 Location: Florida |
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As to your Strike Witches:
"is depicted as engaged in explicit sexual activity, or the dominant characteristic of which is the depiction, for a sexual purpose, of a sexual organ" Strike Witches shows underaged girls in the their underwear, and nude without frontal exposure in bathing. There is no sexual intent. Law enforcement would need that to develop a case. Your "ecchi" anime and manga should be fine, but your yaoi shota, etc, well, it's your risk to take in this Brave New World. Apparently at this point the battle has been lost to differentiate between photos/videos (involving an actual underaged person being harmed) vs. no harm done to anyone in the process of drawing an picture. Subtle, yet very powerful difference. |
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CrimsonDusk
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So this is how our intimacy ends, with loli hentai. Dammit and when I still thought I had chances of a personality now we all have to be little mini robots that all do as the mighty system tell us. But don't threat the ones that make the system don't follow it's rules they just want you, the average Joe, to be afraid and controlled so they can walk all over your dignity and identity. I'm not saying I'm condoning to someone watching child pornography but when you hear at news that a mega 24 football star made a car present to his girlfriend that just turned 18 you start to believe that pedophiles are just people with no money and no power. OH and are furies considered child pornography because if you depict two anthropomorphic animals having sex isn't it like depicting 2 animals of ages between 1 to 15 that look like underage humans having sex. I say from now on we should arrest animals for procreating until they reach 18 years... if they live that long. Oh and who would of thought we are also from the Kingdom: Animalia and the Class: Mammalia so that means we are also animals with instincts that are more powerful than our reason but let's suppress them so when we can't do it no more we will go on a shooting rampage. Sorry for my rambling but I had to get it of my head.
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mow123
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This man also possessed real child pornography; I doubt the fact that he had animated cp really made that much of a difference. Personally, 5 years in prison seems like a fair punishment for possessing real life cp. The fact that he also had anime cp is a non-factor. The fact that he also had anime cp has everyone up in arms and supporting a man who had real life cp. Additionally, there's no need to be paranoid; you will never be arrested for anything that legally licensed in your country; if it's illegal it won't get licensed. |
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Fronzel
Posts: 1906 |
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What about anime/manga that splash lolis in the face with milk or vanilla ice cream? |
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Mattymattski
Posts: 20 Location: Australia |
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In the New South Wales Supreme Court today(December 08, 2008), Justice Michael Adams ruled that a fictional cartoon character was a "person" within the meaning of the relevant state and commonwealth laws. "... The mere fact that the figure depicted departed from a realistic representation in some respects of a human being did not mean that such a figure was not a 'person'." A $3000 fine and a good behaviour bond was handed down. As far as Australia is concerned its not a problem with sexuality, its a problem with reality. I claim the Ridiculous Decisions Award on behalf of all Australians. Hooray. |
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Berserkfury819
Posts: 229 Location: Detroit Mi. Spider-Man is dead. R.I.P. |
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Ooh, 5 years in prison. That's going to dissaude pedophiles.
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pparker
Posts: 1185 Location: Florida |
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There are always grey areas, but if it's even debatable whether or not it's actually milk or ice cream, it shouldn't be a problem, assuming they are dressed. If you mean take their clothes off and particularly show the naughty bits, you've got a problem with the ice cream. According to the reference, the sexual intent is the deciding factor. To be blunt: A depiction, in the hands of an adult, of a naked 10 year old covered in ice cream doesn't leave much doubt as to intent. |
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Ktimene's Lover
Posts: 2242 Location: Glendale, AZ (Proudly living in the desert) |
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It seems that American and Canadian politicians are cracking down on kiddy porn to an extent.
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walw6pK4Alo
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The former Island Nation of Convicts doesn't count, Australia has been ridiculous more than the United States in censorship, so it comes as no surprise. |
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jsieczka
Posts: 150 Location: Rochester, NY |
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I see no problem with this case based on the the fact that real Child Pornography was found in addition to the virtual. The issue we are having is that legislators are trying to fit everything into black and white categories. While their intentions are good it is creating havoc in the Judiciary, where things are rarely black and white. Society as a whole has found that Child Pornography in the hands of an adult is a Black issue. Virtual Child Pornography on the other hand seems to be a very gray issue, that the courts need to have flexibility to work with. I see three clear pictures where this flexibility needs to be applied:
1) Person who is in possession of Virtual CP has no criminal past, and no real CP. Should this person be arrested, no. They have not harmed society in any way, and there is no prof that they will. Now should the owner of the material be surprised that the cops may take an interest in them if in their neighborhood there is a case of sexual abuse of a minor? NO...No different then if you are seen reading a book on bomb making and a bombing happens. 2)A person is found with real and virtual CP. The virtual CP should be taken into consideration in your sentencing. You have done harm to socity and have shown an interest in the arming of children. 3)A convicted pedophile. Simply put as part of your sentence and as part of your release from prison you should be bared from any material that places a child real or fake in a sexual situation. This a person that has been shown to act on their impulses and needs no help in coming up with new ideas. |
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Quark
Posts: 710 Location: British Columbia, Canada |
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Are you from Canada? Cause I've been wanting to get the uncut version of Kite, but I won't buy it for fear of it being confiscated. However, if I know that it's acceptable to have here, then I might consider getting it. I'm actually interested in seeing this list, just so I know what to avoid. Link please? |
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Oraculo
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It sounds to me like a homophobic, fascist agenda is at play here (as it has been for some time)... "But what about the CHILDREN?!?" *if there was a barfing emoticon I'd put it here*
Check put this article: http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/08/27/has-america-become-fascist-the-14-defining-characteristics-of-fascism/ Characteristics #5, 6 & 12 seem quite relevant, unfortunately. |
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sunflowerseed
Posts: 106 Location: South Texas |
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If James Corey Hammond in this article here had real CP photos and real CP videos I do not understand why the news is being posted on the ANN site. The type of sexual predicator after kids, or any sex of any age would get all they could of every thing there is. So its not Anime related. This isn't going to feed the fire to help Chris Handley in any way.
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Koast
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Is this a joke? I mean really who was in charge of allowing this article to go up? There isn't even any mention if anime had anything to do with it. The guy had PHOTOS and VIDEOS of child pornography. It mentions nothing offically about anime. I was so sickened when I seen this mentioned here I had to comment. ANN is trying to make it seem that anime is somehow connected to nonsense as this. What the hell are you thinking? Remove this article, the fact that he was arrested would have more to do with the photos than just anime alone. If it was anime alone it'd make sense, but you're just trying to start up stuff that probably wasn't this in the first place. If I were you I'd take it off or do an edit or something. |
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