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NEWS: Freezing Sci-Fi Action Anime Gets 2nd Season


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terminus24



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:12 pm Reply with quote
I liked season 1 just enough to guarantee that I'll watch this. Leaving series based on running manga open-ended instead of shoehorning in a ending is usually a good idea, but I get annoyed when they don't make another season when the anime makes it obvious that there is a continuation to the story, so I'm glad that this is getting one more season, even if it wasn't my first choice for a continuation of a series.

Anyways, I might just have to wait a while to see the uncensored version, 99% of the time censorship doesn't bother me (usually because it seems natural, i.e. steam, sun rays, random objects, etc), but the fact that there were random black bars covering over half the screen at times was what made me drop watching the series online after two episodes.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:29 pm Reply with quote
getchman wrote:
Khooni wrote:
I wonder why do people watch ecchi anime for the story........that's like studying physics or chemistry for the sake of entertainment -_-


well, because some do actually have a good story
Like? First though we better define what a good story is so we can see we are on the same level(I doubt it).
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:45 pm Reply with quote
The first thing I thought when opening this article were "those are some unreal gahonkas, this is one of those fanservice shows right?!". But nonetheless, I've heard nothing good about this series, so I won't really watch it unless someone can make me think otherwise.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:27 pm Reply with quote
Rahxephon91 wrote:
Like? First though we better define what a good story is so we can see we are on the same level(I doubt it).


your comment tells me that no matter what I try, it wont matter
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:39 pm Reply with quote
Rahxephon91 wrote:
getchman wrote:
Khooni wrote:
I wonder why do people watch ecchi anime for the story........that's like studying physics or chemistry for the sake of entertainment -_-


well, because some do actually have a good story
Like? First though we better define what a good story is so we can see we are on the same level(I doubt it).


Judging from your user name, I have to assume for you a "good story" is one where a 29-year-old woman has remained ga-ga over spoiler[a 13-year-old boy she dated for six months when she was 13. This highly meaningful relationship was so awesome that she remains a mooncalf over her ex-boyfriend's 17-year-old self even though she's 29] and apparently has never had any other significant relationship in her life.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:00 pm Reply with quote
Blood- wrote:
Rahxephon91 wrote:
getchman wrote:
Khooni wrote:
I wonder why do people watch ecchi anime for the story........that's like studying physics or chemistry for the sake of entertainment -_-


well, because some do actually have a good story
Like? First though we better define what a good story is so we can see we are on the same level(I doubt it).


Judging from your user name, I have to assume for you a "good story" is one where a 29-year-old woman has remained ga-ga over spoiler[a 13-year-old boy she dated for six months when she was 13. This highly meaningful relationship was so awesome that she remains a mooncalf over her ex-boyfriend's 17-year-old self even though she's 29] and apparently has never had any other significant relationship in her life.

Rolling Eyes
Young love is pretty intense and dumb. And she had relationships after, specifically with Itsuki. But this doesn't matter since this isn't the core of the story, nor would I even say the love story was good. Though if you want to dumb it down like this, then I'm sure we could do this to pretty much every anime.

But either way, no I wouldn't consider the show a perfect example of anything.

getchman wrote:


your comment tells me that no matter what I try, it wont matter
Probably, but I'm just wondering what is considered one.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:12 pm Reply with quote
Murder, She wrote:

Dall-Young Lim and Kwang-Hyun Kim's Freezing manga


They should be included in the Convention Guest survey. Cool


dtm42 wrote:

Sexualised girls being brutalised does seem to me to warrant the Guro tag as opposed to straight Gore.


People do enjoy seeing that! Laughing


ninjapet wrote:

Though given where they left off on the next arc is going to be very hard to watch. I personally don't think it's suited for animation. spoiler[The deal with Satellizer's brother and the sexual abuse she had as a child due to him. The reason why she can't trust men / stand to be touched. ]


"She should just grow up!" Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:41 pm Reply with quote
"well, because some do actually have a good story" Getchman
"Like? First though we better define what a good story is so we can see we are on the same level(I doubt it)." RahXephon91

So lets talk about a touchstone, RX91... what is it about a story that grabs you... Do they gotta both have Dolems? Can we call them Nova this time?

Do you wish to see the journey? What is it about callow young men, who don't know that much? What is it about determined mysterious women?

What bonds them, what breaks them? Why do you want to know about them?

I'm not so much comparing RahXephon to Freezing, because their goals are different, the one an epic story about an inter-dimensional war, and the people at the crux of it, the other an inter-dimensional war as the backdrop for a number of broken people, and how they deal with each other in the small ways.

Sure freezing is a mishmash of a lot of things, not serious enough to leave the fan service behind, probably because that would make it relentlessly dark(er), but that the competitions draw away from the story of the relationship between the girl who will kill when touched and the boy, who for various reasons, is bound and determined to reach her. Oh and lotsa fan service.

IS that what bothers you?

What's more important? Is the story acceptable to the watcher, so that they wish to find out where it leads?

I myself like RahXephon very much, yet I know many people that find it too derivative, too dense, or too cumbersome.

Freezing is no different, in that it won't suit everyone's taste. Some people hate, Hate, HATE, ecchi anime. OK, so don't watch.

But your presumption that there is no good story because it's ecchi, is like assuming wine is horrible, because you don't like alcohol.

I have a simple formula for deciding if I think something has a good story.

is the story such that I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
everything else is gravy. is the story consistent with it's own universe? do the characters interest me? do they act like people might? is the protagonist TOO DAMN WHINY for me to continue? {Kazuya is VERY close in this department}

It's probably worth remembering that we watch this stuff for fun... so if it isn't fun for you, there is something else out there to watch.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:01 am Reply with quote
@ RahXephon91 - no need to dumb down the "love story" in BlahXephon (or MehXephon, take your pick), it is stupendously dumb all on its own. And yeah, it does form the emotional core of the show, especially when you consider the climax. It's hardly some minor side-show, although given the way it's handled, I suppose you can be forgiven for glossing over it. Anyway, the important thing is that despite your user name you seem to recognize that NahXephon is no model of a "good story."
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casualfan



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:44 am Reply with quote
Rahxephon91 wrote:
Khooni wrote:
I wonder why do people watch ecchi anime for the story........that's like studying physics or chemistry for the sake of entertainment -_-
I have a better question? Why watch ecchi anime at all? The stories suck. The characters suck? And well animated women aren't really something you should wank to. And if you insist why not get actual porn?


Sucks for you that is. Everyone has different taste. I found the stories and characters in Freezing to be entertaining and that's all an anime needs to be.

And who are you to dictate our moral view? If someone jerks off to animated character that's their right and there's nothing wrong with it. And actual porn is flooded with drug abuse, stds, women abuse, etc. I would consider animated porn as a much safer alternative.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:04 pm Reply with quote
Blood- wrote:
@ RahXephon91 - no need to dumb down the "love story" in BlahXephon (or MehXephon, take your pick), it is stupendously dumb all on its own. And yeah, it does form the emotional core of the show, especially when you consider the climax. It's hardly some minor side-show, although given the way it's handled, I suppose you can be forgiven for glossing over it. Anyway, the important thing is that despite your user name you seem to recognize that NahXephon is no model of a "good story."
I saftley ignore it because it's not what interested me about the show. I like the growth of Ayato over the story, that's the part I related to and the general overarching plot. The love story was strange, but not terrible. I said it wasn't a perfect example of storytelling, but it's not a bad show at all and it was pretty great at the time I was watching it. Don't know how I would feel now, but I bet it's better then this Freezing crap and most anime today anyway.

Good anime storytelling? Possibly stuff like Eva, Giant Robo, Ghost in the Shell, Gurren Lagann, some Ghibli stuff, Nadeisco, Utena, FLCL, Macross Plus Bebop ect ect. Things with stories that have actual points and themes, have some general effort put into their plots and characters and don't insult my intelligence or embarrass me. Something few if any ecchi focused shows have ever done. I've never seen this Freezing show, but one look at the trailer is enough for me to doubt it.
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ArthurFrDent



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:59 pm Reply with quote
I guess my question RX91, which things have you seen, then?

You get that this is a slashing generalization to say "this thing has no story" when you haven't even seen an ep?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:03 pm Reply with quote
Rahxephon91 wrote:
Possibly stuff like

You could probably use to start thinking for yourself and enjoying things for your own reasons, because so far it sounds as though you simply want everyone to be impressed with your sophisticated tastes that you've merely copied from some self-proclaimed "jaded old school fan."

I can't say I was too thrilled with the first season myself, but it was one of those many anime that ended right as it seemed the story was about to really kick in. It failed to make me curious enough to check out the manga, but I'll bite on another season of the anime, at least for a few episodes.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:34 pm Reply with quote
Parse Error wrote:
Rahxephon91 wrote:
Possibly stuff like

You could probably use to start thinking for yourself and enjoying things for your own reasons, because so far it sounds as though you simply want everyone to be impressed with your sophisticated tastes that you've merely copied from some self-proclaimed "jaded old school fan."
Um, those are what on my shelf and I enjoy them because you know? They are actually good shows.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:38 pm Reply with quote
I know that's what I always do when I see a news story about a show that I haven't actually watched: I jump in and express an opinion about it. It's always such a productive use of my time - and I think the readers really appreciate an opinion based on complete ignorance, too!
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