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RyanSaotome wrote:

Yet these are what sell in Japan. Mass Effect 3 sold like 30k and made the bargain bins within a couple months, yet Final Fantasy XIII-2 sold nearly a million in a month. Why should you make games you don't like just because foreigners demand you to make games for them?

Money. A game selling nearly a million in a month pales to what is considered a smash success here. Mass Effect 3 sold almost 3 million in the rest of the world.

animehermit wrote:

RyanSaotome wrote: Yet these are what sell in Japan. Mass Effect 3 sold like 30k and made the bargain bins within a couple months, yet Final Fantasy XIII-2 sold nearly a million in a month. Why should you make games you don't like just because foreigners demand you to make games for them? Money. A game selling nearly a million in a month pales to what is considered a smash success here. Mass Effect 3 sold almost 3 million in the rest of the world.

Well, Japanese pay more for their games too. A normal game in Japan costs about 100 dollars due to the differences in the value of our money plus games in Japan have always cost more.

While that doesn't add up to what Mass Effect 3 made total, it does cut into it some... and people, like I said earlier, like making games they actually enjoy. Just making games you don't like for foreigners kills any enjoyment you might have from making games. Plus, theres the whole nationalistic thing where they'd rather make games for their own instead of foreigners.

RyanSaotome wrote:

animehermit wrote: RyanSaotome wrote: Yet these are what sell in Japan. Mass Effect 3 sold like 30k and made the bargain bins within a couple months, yet Final Fantasy XIII-2 sold nearly a million in a month. Why should you make games you don't like just because foreigners demand you to make games for them? Money. A game selling nearly a million in a month pales to what is considered a smash success here. Mass Effect 3 sold almost 3 million in the rest of the world. Well, Japanese pay more for their games too. A normal game in Japan costs about 100 dollars due to the differences in the value of our money plus games in Japan have always cost more. While that doesn't add up to what Mass Effect 3 made total, it does cut into it some... and people, like I said earlier, like making games they actually enjoy. Just making games you don't like for foreigners kills any enjoyment you might have from making games. Plus, theres the whole nationalistic thing where they'd rather make games for their own instead of foreigners.

That 3 million is from around the world, not just the US alone.

No other country in the world makes games solely for their own country, not even the US. If they continue like this then they just have to realize that they aren't the best in the world anymore.

And I really refuse to believe that every developer in Japan loves the types of games they're making. Especially with how vocal people like Inafune and even Kojima has been.

Money. A game selling nearly a million in a month pales to what is considered a smash success here. Mass Effect 3 sold almost 3 million in the rest of the world.

No other country in the world makes games solely for their own country, not even the US. If they continue like this then they just have to realize that they aren't the best in the world anymore.

Dark Souls, Demon's Souls and even Dragon's Dogma. Vanquish is a cover based third person shooter and that did well too.

RyanSaotome wrote:

animehermit wrote: RyanSaotome wrote: Yet these are what sell in Japan. Mass Effect 3 sold like 30k and made the bargain bins within a couple months, yet Final Fantasy XIII-2 sold nearly a million in a month. Why should you make games you don't like just because foreigners demand you to make games for them? Money. A game selling nearly a million in a month pales to what is considered a smash success here. Mass Effect 3 sold almost 3 million in the rest of the world. Well, Japanese pay more for their games too. A normal game in Japan costs about 100 dollars due to the differences in the value of our money plus games in Japan have always cost more. While that doesn't add up to what Mass Effect 3 made total, it does cut into it some... and people, like I said earlier, like making games they actually enjoy. Just making games you don't like for foreigners kills any enjoyment you might have from making games. Plus, theres the whole nationalistic thing where they'd rather make games for their own instead of foreigners.

That 3 million is from around the world, not just the US alone.

No other country in the world makes games solely for their own country, not even the US. If they continue like this then they just have to realize that they aren't the best in the world anymore.

And I really refuse to believe that every developer in Japan loves the types of games they're making. Especially with how vocal people like Inafune and even Kojima has been.

Japan and America have different standards of what makes a good game, and its best for both to focus on what they like and make those types of games, instead of trying to appeal to different markets that have different tastes.

you don't want Capcom to make a Monster Hunter game you just want them to make Skyrim. This idea that all games should be similar is what is killing gaming. There's a reason why despite all these flashy graphics and high-end video cards that you can only play on a 2,000 dollar computer than the Golden era of PC gaming ended in the late 90's. You once had games like Day of the tentacle, Fallout, and Baldur's gate, and now you just have the same cover shooter with a slightly different dude in a different locale.

If I wanted to play a cover shooter than I would buy a cover shooter, not demand that somehow Square Enix doesn't get the fans by not making a cover shooter.

Your demanding that Japanese developers simply imitate Western developers and not put any thought into the games they make just because you refuse to get out of the rut.

First, I never said I wanted to change Monster Hunter, I'd just like it on a console that isn't the wii. It would do well on PC, mostly because niche markets do well on PC.

animehermit wrote:

First, I never said I wanted to change Monster Hunter, I'd just like it on a console that isn't the wii. It would do well on PC, mostly because niche markets do well on PC.

Monster Hunter has been released on the PSP and PS3 (both of which are region free), and, oddly enough, Capcom released a 360 only version, too (region-locked though).

Niche markets do well on PC? In Japan or US? The PC gaming landscape in Japan is much different than in the West, though.

animehermit wrote:

First, I never said I wanted to change Monster Hunter, I'd just like it on a console that isn't the wii. It would do well on PC, mostly because niche markets do well on PC.

Monster Hunter has been released on the PSP and PS3 (both of which are region free), and, oddly enough, Capcom released a 360 only version, too (region-locked though).

Niche markets do well on PC? In Japan or US? The PC gaming landscape in Japan is much different than in the West, though.

>mfw everyone continues this pointless fighting