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braves
Posts: 2309 Location: Puerto Rico (but living in Texas) |
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I think that it's mostly to get rid of MPEG-2 artifacts that are common on DVDs and to get lossless audio (which is ideal for a show like Champloo). If you look at old FUNi DVDs, they look awful. A new encode on Blu-ray with substantially less artifacts popping up along with lossless audio is what it's all about, IMO. But using DNR to eliminate detail in the video should not be part of the equation. I'm glad that the Blu-ray question got asked, so that they'll get forwarded to the people in charge. I'm hoping that this problem gets fixed in time for FLCL's release. |
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NJ_
Posts: 3010 Location: Wallington, NJ |
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Aw, butthurt cause he said the truth about you?
Fixed!
You're kidding right? The first two would be good but the third? Really? |
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einhorn303
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To question: Like you said, uninformed customers are still willing to buy pointless or inferior releases. And there are many uniformed customers out there. Funimation is in business to make profits, not put out a quality release; that's how capitalism works. And Funimation has demonstrated in multiple ways that they're willing to forego building the long-term health of their market for short-term benefit: just look at the bad precedents they've set by releasing cheap boxsets way too early, and pricing their shows so low that it devalues anime for everyone.
But they don't include lossless audio of the Japanese track (which is, as some would say, "the one that matters"). |
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doctordoom85
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Indeed. And there's no need to worry, FUNi already confirmed on Twitter that the DVDs will have the original dub. |
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mglittlerobin
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Doesn't surprise me that they'd keep the original dub, they kept it with Slayers and why would they redub something that already sounded good?
I also thought the marketing thing with Funimation was neat, looking forward to Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood later this year, that's gonna be a BIG hit dubbed, even more than the subbed. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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Mario, nobody called you any names at all. I made an off-handed comment that "your favorite thing to do was to bitch about no dubs". Which you do, all the time on these forums, and we've had to ban you a couple of times for doing it too much. The comment was intended to be lighthearted, but it is very much true. You were not "attacked". Not only that but you have sent in several questions to the podcast before and they have generally all been answered. |
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GWOtaku
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You know what, I've seen the comparison between Champloo on DVD and Blu-Ray. This collage was actually presented by someone as an argument against Blu-Ray, but for me it's exactly the opposite. Colors are more distinct, the picture appears to be more clear, and the supposed loss of detail seems minimal when it isn't nonexistent. If this is indicative of what happens for an upscaled release from Funi, I'm not seeing the problem. I'm open to persuasion on this, but so far the noise about Blu-Ray at least appears to be just that....
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Richard J.
Posts: 3367 Location: Sic Semper Tyrannis. |
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Sucks to hear that Big Windup flopped. It's the only baseball story I've ever watched that actually got me interested in the game itself. Great to know that Spice and Wolf is doing well. I love it. Good to know One Piece is fine. Heh, I love the Strike Witches question. I'm buying 3 copies. Yes, there is an audience for a fun series like this. I'm one of that audience. (Just deal with it already.) Very much hoping the dub will live up to my expectations. I am pleased to hear that they are not big on sub-only. Very not liking that trend but it means I'll be able to just save my money. (I guess not spending money on anime would be fine. ) I'd really hate to see them start putting out sub-only. Blu-Ray is a big "whatever" to me, I'll pick up something sooner or later but I'm just not pushing old ladies into traffic to get every Blu-Ray. It's just not a big deal to me. Sad that the Japanese mess them up on this for those who are so in love with Blu-Ray. Glad to hear they are increasing coverage for their channel. Good to do more simulcasts. Looking so forward to seeing how the co-production deals go. To me, it seems like a total win-win for everyone involved, assuming they pick the right franchise to work with. |
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asimpson2006
Posts: 3151 Location: USA |
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I will take your word for it. If I want to see spoiler[a single event that should occur over at least 1 to 2 episodes get done over 7 or more episodes ] I will watch DragonBall Z instead. I may check it out in the future, but it will most likely be rent only.
I will probably get into Blu ray when I have to which is going to be a long while before I do so. I'll stick with DVD's since I don't have a blu ray player nor the money to obtain one. |
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chrisc1978
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Zac: your Mario response was classic. but I hate subs to.
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ChocoBar
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Uh, Unlimited Adventure bombed bro, before you're saying what THEY should do, you should buck and tell people to buy it spoiler[ The game is crap anyways ]
1.) Don't hold your breath 2.) Don't start like last time |
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ChocoBar
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As much as I like Gintama in ALOT of ways, you're full of crap if you believe this |
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CCSYueh
Posts: 2707 Location: San Diego, CA |
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The economy to improve? I know I've really scaled back my buying. Much as I'd like some series, I wait as long as possible to see if there will be a single set instead of these half-sets. I only buy the half-sets on stuff I really want (One Piece, Sgt Frog, Ouran, Ghost Hunt). I've been eyeing Red Garden, Tokyo Majin, & Welcome to the NHK for awhile, waiting, waiting, waiting...just a bit lower on the price...
I know. It does hurt that the economy is so horrid, some titles are likely doing worse than if they were licensed in better times when fans might have more cash to throw on an iffy (to their tastes) title. Right now it's pretty much buy what one has a reason to buy (seen it, read the manga, etc) I do see a few people talk of spurging when they have extra cash, but it's far more rare than it was a couple yrs back. |
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hissatsu01
Posts: 963 Location: NYC |
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The colors are more "distinct" as you put it because noise reduction and edge has enhancement has removed all the grain present in the original and sharpened the edges around objects. Look at the 4th photo in your link. The tree on the right is reduced to featureless blobs in the blu-ray screenshot. A similar loss of detail is visible in the houses to the left and the tiles above the gate at the bottom. Detail has been blurred away along with all the grain. The loss of detail from the noise reduction is present in the other screenshots, but most obvious in the 4th. Releasing a blu-ray that has less detail than the DVD is not acceptable and certainly not living up to the expectations of the format. As for the grain, it was placed there intentionally. Samurai Champloo was animated digitally; there is no such thing as grain in an entirely digital production unless it is added intentionally. None of this DNR/EE nonsense is necessary, and people that aren't bothered by noise reduction and edge enhancement generally wouldn't notice anything if they weren't present, and they can get a very similar effect by turning on noise reduction options on their TV or Blu-ray player. Meanwhile people who do know what DNR and EE are generally can't stand it, and there's no way to undo it. I canceled my pre-order for Champloo as soon as I saw the screenshots, and was too late to cancel my order for Basilisk. It's the same as Champloo. I will not be buying a single future Funimation Blu-ray without seeing reviews first. What's especially galling is that many of Funi's older DVD releases look terrible; the Blu-ray re-releases were the first opportunity to buy a genuinely good looking version and they squandered the opportunity. Last edited by hissatsu01 on Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:19 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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ChocoBar
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Please don't bring the economy into question please, anime acquisition has never been a factor of the economy and never will be nor has sales been effected. People just didn't like Big Windup or did didn't appeal to the masses FUNI believe |
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