Forum - View topic

REVIEW: Valvrave the Liberator episodes 1-6

They don't HAVE to be, but Valvrave is a ridiculous mecha show. The protagonists of them are usually heroic kinds of people.

I don't think any topic should ever be considered taboo, a show can approach a topic very very badly and then it's perfectly legitimate to despise it, but I don't believe there is ever any subject that should not be covered in popular media.

meiam wrote:

I don't think any topic should ever be considered taboo, a show can approach a topic very very badly and then it's perfectly legitimate to despise it, but I don't believe there is ever any subject that should not be covered in popular media.

No one is saying it can't be covered in fiction or it should be taboo. We are saying it was done badly.

....spoiler[the main character raped someone. There are certain places you don't go and rape is one of them. Especially not the main character raping somone and still being considered the protagonist].

spoiler[That implies that the people who made this show consider rapists to be HEROES]

Maidenoftheredhand wrote:

No one is saying it can't be covered in fiction or it should be taboo. We are saying it was done badly.

Yes, this.

But apparently you both happen to think that doing it "well" means there's only one possible way to deal with the subject and nothing else will ever suffice. I think that's too limiting, considering the topic has been present in fiction for centuries, in various forms that aren't always agreeable.

Sure, but that doesn't mean that Valvrave can't be an exception.
Boxes, Chagen.

But apparently you both happen to think that doing it "well" means there's only one possible way to deal with the subject and nothing else will ever suffice. I think that's too limiting, considering the topic has been present in fiction for centuries, in various forms that aren't always agreeable.

Things are getting too heated in here. Could we please have a Mod-implemented moratorium on all discussion in this thread about spoiler[rape], whether it pertains to Valvrave The Liberator or not? Just to calm things down.

I don't know why a dumb, goofy-ass show like Valvrave would have something like that in it in the first place. Christ, come up with something better if you want to be controversial.

And the way Valvrave does it is awful.

spoiler[RAPE IS BAD MMMKAY?]

I don't know why a dumb, goofy-ass show like Valvrave would have something like that in it in the first place. Christ, come up with something better if you want to be controversial.

Or at the very least be interesting.

I can think of half a dozen ways Valvrave could have had spoiler[rape] that still would have been highly inappropriate and offensive, but would have been at least been interesting.

This was literally the laziest plot-device they possibly could have come up with.

It's a bit lazy, but if you're even willing to contemplate that, then it can still prove to be interesting down the line. Not so much because of the act itself but due to its consequences, even if they're not the ones you apparently happen to consider as an obligation.