Forum - View topicDo you have an anime itch that isn't being scratched enough lately?
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Kadmos1
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Romance anime with childhood friends confessing (it has to be them looking at each other) and the show also has a proposal (with their 1st kiss being after either) followed by an onscreen marriage then it ends with them having kids.
The confession uses aishiteru or koishiteru. An anime confession will usu. be suki or daisuki. The 1st pair of words actually mean love while the 2nd pair mean like/really like. According to this June '11 entry, "DAISUKI, AISHITERU N' KOISHITERU" from F!RZ@N@H F@LL!CE'S WORLD ~ (a blogspot site):
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Animegomaniac
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I never found any yuri element in Simoun; Once the species sexually matures, all pairings are off except the heterosexual ones. I found the ending to be depressing for exactly these reasons. To put it in TV tropes terms: It's "romantic two girl friendship" in "schoolgirl lesbian" clothing. |
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Key
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Your interpretations of series often make no sense to me, and Moribito is a particular case of that here. There was nothing "dumb" about the order given the circumstances, and I have no idea what "repercussions" you were expecting to happen. Think you're either remembering only bits and pieces of the series or utterly misunderstanding what all was going on in that series or both. And so you're judging GITS:SAC as lacking intelligence based on one story element you disagree with out of two full season? Okay. . . |
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Errinundra
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I'd like to see more anime with intelligent, adult female protagonists who are put under pressure and come through, such as Atsuko Chiba from Paprika, Mireille Bouquet from Noir or Re-L from Ergo Proxy. Or, dare I say it: Balsa from Moribito - Guardian of the Spirit or Major Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex.
But then, "intelligent", "adult" and "female" are intimidating concepts for some anime fans when applied in tandem. That's probably why it doesn't happen too often. |
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Animegomaniac
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You're the one not thinking about them. I've read your review on Kanon and I know your grasp of anything not explicitly given to you is slight at best. Could you imagine Hamlet with Claudius trying to have his nephew/now his son Hamlet killed {Laertes, you so crazy...} but then change his mind and everyone living happily ever after? Now, make him Hamlet's direct blood father instead and then have everyone at the end ignore the whole "the king just tried to have his own heir killed" plot ... which was the show. What's the phrase? Come on, say it with me... Catch the conscience of the king. The king of Moribito has no conscience. He feels glad that he was ... wrong? Really, that's his limit? He's not on his knees, begging forgiveness from his people who are made of better stuff? Overthrow the bastard before he makes another decision or make him abdicate the throne. What is wrong with these people... Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex; Never have I been repulsed by a main character/"hero" as I have by the Major whose very nickname, er rank, denotes leadership, ability but also, by connotation, a bit military as well as basic importance. Most characters in similar positions are "captains" but, uh, that one is a major. So what is its duties? Lead, protect? Condone? And as I've said before, I got sick of the Major's hypocrisy in determining it's robotic life outweighs other robotic life because that's the way it decided. Those other guys who decided what they had of life was worth sacrificing for it's continued existence, to the Major that was their obvious choice. While the major contemplated what it meant for those, for want of a better term, ghosts in a shell, to die in its place? [Me] "Yeah, And, and...?" {Holds breath}. Major: "Huh." Damn it, wrong answer. A little remorse, a little compassion, perhaps even a hint of regret? Even, for the love of deus ex machina, a little wonder that some of the machines you sent out to be destroyed came back to sacrifice their lives for you? You're not worth it, Major. You're not worth them. And I stopped, two episodes into season 2. I did thankfully learn that the source manga have the Major keep the living robots alive, because, I don't know, some sort of right of sentient life and it's kind of their job to protect life in the cybernetics {hey, there's the title again}. But in the real machine age, who would know and I mean know, what life is? In the TV anime, there is one or so it thinks. Either it's a really bad adaptation or a really ignorant audience. |
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Errinundra
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Animegomaniac, you obsess over the oddest things. And, as usual, you're about as clear as mud. I take it you're talking about the spoiler[deaths of the tachikoma] at the end of the first series of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. Some things to consider.
1. The Major is NOT a good person/cyborg. She is smart, goal-oriented, brutal and perhaps slightly unhinged. 2. The tachikoma are soldiers; the Major is their commanding officer. She has the right to put them in danger; they understand and accept it. Their spoiler[sacrifice] is for the greater good, something every soldier knows may be required of them one day. 3. If you had bothered to complete the second season you will have learned that the tachikoma spoiler[weren't killed. Indeed they voluntarily sacrifice themselves in even more spectacular fashion at the end of the second season, thereby saving the world from yet another nuclear conflagration.] 4. It is in their spoiler[self-sacrifice] that we (and the tachikoma themselves) realise they are truly sentient - a very Japanese irony. Your criticism of Moribito on the basis of a secondary character - the Mikado - being misguided (which he is) and thereby poorly envisaged (which he isn't) is trivial. *** danilo07, I don't know about satire but I've long felt that Kenji Kamiyama, while I like his social conscience, has a strongly conservative streak in him. Not for nothing is noblesse oblige central to Eden of the East. I've also long thought it ironic that Kamiyama inherited the Ghost in the Shell franchise from the radically left-wing (or, at least, one time radically left-wing) Mamoru Oshii. Their visions are vastly different. Oshii's cynicism undermines his work while Kamiyama has maintained his optimism. This latter trait is one of the reasons I prefer Kamiyama's vision despite my socialist past. |
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Violynne
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I miss the series where the cast isn't in school.
I can't wrap my head around the idea a grade school character can deal with adult issues and come out ahead by the end of the series. |
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RadarJay
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I miss "comedies"/slice of life that genuinely make you empathize/sympathize with some pretty emotionally complex characters, and I didn't realize how much I missed that kinda stuff until I watched Silver Spoon and more recently a re-watching of Welcome to The NHK. Wait, no, "missing" implies that it was more prevalent at some other point...
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Key
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Have no idea what you're talking about here.
What does Hamlet have to do with anything here? It's an utterly different type of story. It would be like comparing Simoun to Top Gun because both series focus on elite pilots of combat aircraft.
Did you actually watch the series? Do you actually have a clue at all about who and what the Mikado is supposed to be? Do you actually have a clue at all about why the Mikado made the decision he did in the first place? (This is explained explicitly in the series, BTW.) Getting hung up on stuff like this is what I cannot take your evaluation of anything seriously.
Gods, you really don't pay attention, do you? She's called The Major because she was an actual Major in an actual military and most of the people in Section 9 knew her from those days and even worked under her command. Now, if you want to hate The Major as a character for actions she took then that's perfectly fine, but don't make up stuff to be pissed about. |
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Gatherum
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Jumping on the "more cyberpunk" bandwagon. I eat that shit up, but it feels as if the early to mid 2000's were the very brief golden age for it, unless I'm missing something.
Honestly, though, I do feel like we could do with a few more series per season with protagonists who aren't obviously written to cater to demographics. How many times do we need to be presented with your average, often over-dramatic, high school teenager of a male lead? Matter of fact, they often don't even need to be in high school: all they need to be is slim/slender/scrawny, soft-spoken, angsty, and/or oddly adolescent in vibe (even if they're not adolescent in age anymore!). We could do with more...gruff characters (for lack of a better term). Males and females in their late twenties/early thirties (or even older, if you want to go that far) who are cooler, more experienced (or at least level-headed), and more suited to shouldering the hefty responsibilities that come with meeting the crises that beset they and their friends. They don't need to be amoral or antiheroic in order to sell their maturity either (and in fact, that works against them half the time). If I had to pick some good examples, maybe Spike Spiegel or Motoko Kusanagi. A good example of the archetype I'm arguing against here would be Yūki Hase, from the currently-airing One Week Friends. In spite of its attested cuteness factor, I find myself enjoying the show more when he is not on-screen (or when Shogo is figuratively slapping him upside the head for his foolishness). When he is, all I can think is, "It's all right, bro, calm down. It's not that serious." Similar idea with Akira Tsubaki from Mysterious Girlfriend X. He was just so overblown (yet, for unexplained reasons, very secretive) that I had trouble finding it believable that a relationship between he and Urabe could last for more than a day, at most. Also, speaking on romance titles for a second, it would be great if we could get some kind of physical consummation between a given couple at the end of a series when all is said and done. I don't mean sexual, but...a kiss. Just a kiss. Really. Nagi no Asukara pissed me off for lacking this, especially after all that polygonal drama. In the end, their resolution was, "Oh, we're in love and shit can change for it, but it doesn't have too..." Right. Okay. So you're essentially still spineless and dancing around what is so obviously there. I mean, I can appreciate the moral when taken on its own, but this was just the wrong package for it. Hell, most, if not all, of the featured pairings didn't even get together... I felt similar, but slightly less intense feelings about Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions! - Heart Throb -. Less intense, because the chunibyo aspects really seemed believably detrimental to that kind of progress. Still, two seasons...? tl;dr: I want my protagonists less adolescent and my romances bolder. |
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Kruszer
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And another fair warning: The Flag DVDs are also full of glitches and encoding errors. |
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dlm
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Ooh, I'm reminded of another one.
How about a series that ends with a resolution instead of an often half-assed return to status quo, if not a shamelessly blatant appeal to the possibility of another season? I keep getting the feeling that I watched 13 episodes for nothing. It's not a journey, it's an amusement park ride where you end up right where you started with nothing changed. Or, as I vented in another forum: "There's been a lot of cop-out endings lately. I can't think of a recent series that ended in a way that had any kind of definite conclusion, if not outright was designed for a sequel season. Okay, maybe Girls und Panzer. There's one." (And later) "Winter 2014: Every. Single. Series. I. Watched. Had. No. Resolution. Except Mikakunin. But that is only partial credit, because (without getting spoilery) the series kinda has a foregone conclusion, and the story is more of a tale of the path leading to the inevitability. " |
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Kruszer
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I want more space opera epics like Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Space Battleship Yamato 2199. Well, more science fiction in general really, I also want more cyberpunk, and more things like Ghost in the Shell: SAC and Psycho Pass about cops of the future solving mysterious cases.
I really want more westernized, gritty action shows where the protagonists are not typical "good guys" like for instance they're criminals like Black Lagoon and Jormungand. |
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Blood-
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Nice. That's a flavour I'd like to see more of, myself. |
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meiam
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I'd love more show where the MC isn't a good guys at all, so long as the show realize that. Oh and also, better not have dumb ending like jormugand just to avoid having to make up any resolution. |
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