Forum - View topicNEWS: Digital Manga's Project-H Removes Coffin of Cerebrum Chapter From Print Version
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Daemonblue
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Somehow I think the options their legal counsel gave them were a bit more in depth than that seeing as the content is rather controversial. While technically it is illegal currently, that is only because the Supreme Court hasn't declared that specific law unconstitutional like every other law that was written in a similar fashion. This, of course, leaves it in legal limbo since there is a very good chance the law would be struck as unconstitutional, but fighting the law would cost more money than they would lose from removing the chapter. This is why Handley ended up pleading guilty even though he would have won.
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CrownKlown
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This can't be illegal given we have Dance in the Vampire Bund in both anime and manga format, and even Kodomo No Jikan passed the legal test and was not published solely due to public reaction not do to any legal recourse. Then you have things like Shadowstar Narutaru and a whole other myriad of works that are much more violent towards kids than this thing could possibly be. For the record I have never even heard of this work, but given the works already legally released in the US, I can't imagine anything that could come out that could actually be banned here legally.
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Daemonblue
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Hence the issue. As I said, there is still a law on the books that has yet to be ruled unconstitutional that makes the work possibly illegal. However, it was never ruled unconstitutional because there was never a case that made it that far - everyone either plead guilty to a lesser charge, were charged with something else, or avoided the issue completely. If the company was unlucky they could be prosecuted, but they would win and the law would be properly ruled upon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003 Basically, it boils down to that lovely catch-all known as "obscenity." The work is legal as long as it isn't obscene, but what is obscene changes from place to place and person to person. As a business it's easier for them to choose not to publish the chapter than risk having to go to court over it and lose more money than they will lose for not including it. |
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TarsTarkas
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This is just idiotic on their part. This is an adult label. Digital Manga is just shooting themselves in the foot. They should have reviewed these concerns before they acquired this title. Who is going to buy a censored H-manga title, especially one already translated into english.
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Daemonblue
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After reading some more on it, it seems this title was part of a package deal so they didn't have a choice if they wanted to license the title/titles they wanted. This kind of deal is fairly common from what I've heard. |
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Touma
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I might. I cannot say if I would buy this specific book because I do not know enough about the content, but in general this would not stop me from buying the book if I liked the rest of it. I make my decision based on what I am able to buy and read. I am assuming that when you say "censored" you are referring to the missing chapter. For me the same principle applies to the normal Japanese graphic censoring, but that can get complicated because it is inconsistent. |
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here-and-faraway
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Editors: There's an incorrect link. In this comments section, where it says that the discussion is "about this article", the link leads to an older article about Coffin of Cerebrum and not this current article. Please feel free to delete my post once the link has been fixed.
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Touma
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I think that is is the correct article. It is dated May 31, which is when this thread started. When I click the forum link at the bottom of the article it does bring me to this thread. But it also gives me the warning that the last post in the thread was 16 days 18 hours ago. So something is a bit off. |
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configspace
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Since projecth.xxx no longer exists, the right link for the discussion and where it is explained, which also has an official response in the last page: http://forums.projecthentai.com/index.php?topic=53.0 Basically it's not purely black & white, legal or illegal. Rather it's about obscenity it seems, which is inherently fuzzy. They understandably don't want to risk it. |
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Lavnovice9
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Sad day when even an adult imprints are now being regulated from adult content.
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Touma
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Isn't here-and-faraway talking about an article on ANN, rather than a Project-H forum post? The Project-H Facebook page that was given as the source for the ANN article did have a bad link to their forums. I assume that what you posted is the correct URL for that. Also, does anybody know which chapter was removed? If it has been mentioned I missed it. |
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here-and-faraway
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Yes. I was talking about the ANN link. The ANN article says a chapter called "Game 4" is the missing one. I'm not familiar with the story, so I don't know which part of the manga it's in. |
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streexanime
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It is within Digital Manga's rights as a private owned business to censor their material as they want. If someone didn't feel right with how the violence was handled toward children, they had every right to do so. Especially if said chapter may have potentially contained sexualization of children. People are likely buying this imprints for the porn, not the gripping stories or child violence...
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Touma
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Thanks. I am still not seeing the chapter number in the ANN article, but at least I now know what it is. "Game 4" is really "Chapter 4." The violence itself does not seem that strong to me, but one of the victims of the violence is a child, which does make it worse. Between that and the shota content I can see why they were not comfortable with printing that chapter. Unfortunately, it might be a problem for anybody who is trying to follow the story. I have not actually read the whole book, I read chapter 4 and just skimmed through the rest, but it looks to me like some of the things that happen later might not make much sense without chapter 4. If you read it for the sex all that you would miss is some shota. |
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Wrangler
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I see it that their trying to protect the fans from the Law. It maybe not federal law, but you have some wacky laws on the books in various states, such as Texas. I remember them arresting someone for purchasing "porn" due nature of Manga the guy picked up.
Morality police do exist, thats why i suspect J-Companies are starting to pay attention if they want be able sell anything. Volience removal is surprising, but if its kid beating dicken out of kids graphically, some more conservative folks may see it as seed that leads to abuse. Not everyone, just "one" person is too many. Sad state of affairs these days. |
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