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ArmyofDarkness
Joined: 15 Jan 2014
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:48 am
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Suiseiten wrote: | Ok, so admittedly the whole Vocaloid thing was a tough sale for me. I'm still very much a novice, but found that the sound quality was a touch too robotic for my liking in this one. The song and the beat are great, but sound-wise (and it's not a language thing), I've heard others that are very clear and sounded almost natural. In both, English and Japanese. Dye (Granted it's Luka, not Miku) being an example of a clear bilingual song.
Though, I'm kinda liking that we're getting a preview of an experimental version. |
how is Dye in any way a clear bilingual song? It's sung entirely in English and is so drowned out with the music that it's impossible to hear.
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#820168
Joined: 24 Jul 2014
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:34 pm
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You guys are wasting your time going around in circles about the clarity of Miku's English/Japanese voice. A computer can more naturally pronounce Japanese syllables than English ones. There are approximately 400 phonemes in Japanese while there are over 4000 in English.
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EricJ2
Joined: 01 Feb 2014
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:31 pm
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#820168 wrote: | Also, you guys are wasting your time going around in circles about the clarity of Miku's English/Japanese voice. A computer can more naturally pronounce Japanese syllables than English ones. There are approximately 400 phonemes in Japanese while there are over 4000 in English. |
Wasn't so much about the clarity of the syllables--
More that the character of J-Miku's voice sounds like a plausibly cute anime android/hologram, while E-Miku sounds like Betty Boop with a bad sinus cold.
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Mr. Oshawott
Joined: 12 Mar 2012
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:55 pm
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#820168 wrote: | I wish that Hatsune Miku's English voice had never been released because now we have idiots that are bastardizing her original image. Miku is Japanese and trying to Americanize/Westernize her leads to transference of American values like materialism, deception, violence, promiscuous sex, greed, and prejudice onto that image. I'm afraid this will lower the overall reputation of Miku among the general populace and deter potential fans. |
Well, in fairness, I have found a few Japanese songs that seem to portray a darker image of Miku...
However, that aside, I agree that attempting to Westernize Miku was not the smartest move...
As for the other part of your statement, I decided to address that through private message.
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Suiseiten
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:26 pm
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ArmyofDarkness wrote: |
Suiseiten wrote: | Ok, so admittedly the whole Vocaloid thing was a tough sale for me. I'm still very much a novice, but found that the sound quality was a touch too robotic for my liking in this one. The song and the beat are great, but sound-wise (and it's not a language thing), I've heard others that are very clear and sounded almost natural. In both, English and Japanese. Dye (Granted it's Luka, not Miku) being an example of a clear bilingual song.
Though, I'm kinda liking that we're getting a preview of an experimental version. |
how is Dye in any way a clear bilingual song? It's sung entirely in English and is so drowned out with the music that it's impossible to hear. |
It is mostly English, but there are a couple lines that are done in Japanese. They're kinda toward the end. For the most part, I was able to hear it a little clearer after the playthroughs of Project Diva f in pursuit of even a standard grade in the hard setting of the game. Yes, the background is louder than Luka, but after awhile, it's easy to pick up clips and phrases. And the voice is a clearer quality for me. I can understand that it may not be the best example for some people, but for me it was the first one that came through my mind.
Admittedly, most of my interaction is through the game Project Diva f so it may not have been "perfect" example. Also, I wish to thank EricJ2 for his explanation on some of the robotic nature. It definitely helps put some perspective to something that is pretty much new to me.
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Shadowrun20XX
Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:45 pm
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FREE my soul Miku!
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enurtsol
Joined: 01 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:45 pm
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Some languages just don't work as well high-pitched.
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