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NEWS: Quebec Man Sentenced to 60 Days for Watching 'Hentai' Anime


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Nemui_Nezumi



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:20 am Reply with quote
sure it's a bit creepy, but to the point to sentence him just for watching hentai...?
it would make more sense if they tried to accuse him for illegally download copyrighted material seriously

oh well, nothing new here, it's just America trying to be a shiny and remarkable puritan lol

PD: the more I read those news, the less I can take it seriously

and this
SquadmemberRitsu wrote:
Don't watch hentai in public you god damn dunce
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configspace



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:38 am Reply with quote
Ojamajo LimePie wrote:
Was he even watching lolicon, or is this just an arbitrary decision based on the misconception that all hentai depicts children?

17.9 years old = child

From the news source, the prosecutor merely argued that the "characters looked like minors". They did not even use the word children. So it does not matter if they're not children, if the court decides the character looks like they haven't reached their 18th birthday yet, you're doomed.

Of course this begs the question of how you'd actually determine how old a drawing is. What if the character isn't even human? Or what if it was human but portrayed a person not of their actual age? i.e. a fictional character saying they are 16 but are actually 18? Or the other way around?

Nemui_Nezumi wrote:
sure it's a bit creepy, but to the point to sentence him just for watching hentai...?

The 60-day sentence is the least of his worries. Much more troubling is the sex offender registration.


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shiranehito



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:47 am Reply with quote
Really? People get arrested for only watching something in which production does not involve or harm any real child? Really?

"Any representation of underage people's genitals is illegal under the Criminal Code" means that even for medical or anatomical purpose it's still illegal?
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Crowjack



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:54 am Reply with quote
First off let me just start this by saying I find any kind of exploitation of children sexual or otherwise appalling. I also don't watch hentai. Sure there are a few shows I watch and have watched that have had some pretty bizarre stuff in it. I watched a few ep's of Yamada's 1st tme recently and thought it was pretty funny. I don't think I nor anyone else should be jailed for it. Hentai showing sex with a child is disgusting and wrong to me. But it is a animated cartoon and therefore not real. No matter how repugnant I personally find it I do not think anyone should be punished for watching it. If someone was to start acting upon the things that they are watching well then yeah, then it becomes a problem. All over Canada and the world there are paintings and statues of cherubs with everything all hanging out. They look just like infants and toddlers. Should someone who has cherubs in their house or on their lawn also be punished? Some would argue that it's not the same thing. Art is after all subjective. But then again so is whatever ( for lack off better words ) turns every on. National Geographic use to have and maybe still does have pics of nude children in their magazines. Should that not be considered pornographic or against the law just because the pics and publications intent is educational. It seems to me that a pedophile wouldn't really care of the intent behind it all and just see the nudity. So therefore should those issues or pics be destroyed, not published, or considered illegal? Sorry to ramble, I just find it alarming when people start being jailed for crimes where nobody is hurt and there is no victim involved. Just recently a guy was jailed for quoting song lyrics on his Facebook page. Sure the lyrics were about a school shooting. But that doesn't necessarily mean that he was going to go on a rampage. Nowhere did he even mention doing so. I mean tons of rappers rap about seling drugs and I don't see them getting locked up for intent to sale or whatever. I understand that a line needs to be made somewhere on what is and isn't allowed. But once you start banning things you get a whole other set of problems. It scares me just how frequently I see people getting in trouble over nothing. It's also alarming how many of our rights are slowly being chipped away at. Again sorry for the rambling it's late and I'm kind of sleep deprived at the moment. Just thought I'd share my thoughts on this and other situations like it.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:02 am Reply with quote
Nemui_Nezumi wrote:

oh well, nothing new here, it's just America trying to be a shiny and remarkable puritan lol


And they say Americans can't tell their geography or religion! Laughing
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誤称



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:15 am Reply with quote
Canada, hilariously enough, is in the Americas.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:36 am Reply with quote
誤称 wrote:

Canada, hilariously enough, is in the Americas.


Though nobody calls Canada or Mexico "America," and Quebec is overwhelmingly Roman Catholic.
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Hi-Chan



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:38 am Reply with quote
I may be forgetting my classes in civics .I remember that Quebec has it's own civil law code but I am unsure if this sentence is under the Canadian criminal code or provincial law.I expect that if this is appealed and it should be that any higher court would throw out the conviction.I will point out over the years that the Supreme Court has ruled Canada's pornography laws unconstitutional due to being too broad and too vague several times.And then of course both liberal and conservative governments pass new legislation any constitutional law professor would tell them is unconstitional.
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Melanchthon



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:38 am Reply with quote
lol Canada

First, don't watch porn at work. The Authorities tend to frown upon that behavior, particularly if the porn is illegal (regardless if the ban is silly)
Second, if you're a curious Canadian, try instead becoming a lumberjack. I hear it's quite popular up there
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:52 am Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
Well, there you go, a case that has no actual child porn involved, so you must judge it purely on animated content. I wonder what it was he watched, and I'm glad I'm not from Canuckistan.


Sure 'coz it'd be so much better to live in a country where mass shootings are virtually an every day event. Rolling Eyes Plus, do we have to remind you about the Christopher Handley case? You know, that dude from Iowa who went to prison for possessing manga depicting kids being sexually abused?
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Daemonblue



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:53 am Reply with quote
configspace wrote:

The 60-day sentence is the least of his worries. Much more troubling is the sex offender registration.


And this is the real issue. If it's anything like in America he's screwed. You can get put on the sex offender list for damn near anything these days, and if you're on it he places you live and where you can work are heavily limited. Let us not mention those vigilantes that go out of their way to murder people on the lists not even knowing why they are on it.

Edit: @blood, he was only sentenced because he plead guilty to obscenity, and obscenity laws are bullshit because they can include damn near anything if you find the "right" jury.
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simona.com



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:32 am Reply with quote
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Kawaii Kohaku



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:35 am Reply with quote
I live I Canada and this whole story is just ridiculous...

So he gets in trouble but amazon.ca is allowed to list creepy naked Dakimakura hugging pillows of Cardcaptor Sakura who obviously is a child? Does that mean I'm going to go to jail for browsing through cardcaptor sakura manga on amazon because I pass by that pillow? (It's unavoidable it's on the first page!) Anime hyper
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:42 am Reply with quote
Daemonblue wrote:
Edit: @blood, he was only sentenced because he plead guilty to obscenity, and obscenity laws are bullshit because they can include damn near anything if you find the "right" jury.


That's irrelevant to my point. Some people seem to think that what happened in Quebec can't happen in the US. Handley's case proves it can.
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Megiddo



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:56 am Reply with quote
Who will think of those poor virtual children? Who will fight for their rights? I salute the Quebecois and their decision to label this man a sex offender for thought crime. We need more of this, like sentencing every Quebec resident who has killed someone in a video game due to their deranged mental state that could possibly provoke harm to someone. People must be held accountable for their actions against virtual people!
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