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Hoppy800
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It's a couple of specific things actually, I don't recall scenes of tampon insertion in any H-doujin I've read, and you see all sorts of things being inserted in those but not that. |
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littlegreenwolf
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I wish H-Manga would address periods more often. I've never seen one and I work on h-manga for a living. A common bodily function that happens to just about every girl totally ignored. I think I've only ever seen tampons referred to in Josie manga now that I think about it. |
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caiqin
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What the hell, man. Isn't that something that pretty much every girl has to go through, one of the rare things that the manga should be applauded for depicting? You should realize that girls would find such actions odd the first time, even scary and sympathize with them, not get aroused ffs. Your comment just made me register here. I mean, isn't inserting something besides tampons inside the genitalia of a young female the worse thing to depict? |
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Kadmos1
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I am definitely not into being PC and have a strong anti-censorship attitude. I don't consider this to be kiddy porn (kiddy erotica is maybe closer to there). However, I don't think such a premise should exist anywhere. The author could have at least made it a 13-year-old girl.
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Hoppy800
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Yes, it would be applauded if we were talking about a manga series with middle schoolers on up where puberty hits. A 10 year old should not be using them though, not to mention the whole process is depicted in the OVA making it a bit painful to watch. |
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Brainchild129
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yurigasaki: You are 100% correct that what truly killed this license wasn't the fan furor, it was the fact that Borders and other similar brick-and-mortar-based chains refused to stock it. Back then manga companies were far more dependent on physical sales than they necessary are today. Not being able to put your latest license on the shelves at Borders or Barnes & Noble would have been fatal; they would have lost money on the venture. That's why Seven Seas dropped it and they were wise in doing so. What I don't understand is how DMP looked at the history of this title and thought that it would be any more acceptable just because it would be crowdfunded and mostly sold through their shop.
AlexPawllo: Just because the series itself is not explicit doesn't forgive the fact that it's still deriving most of its humor from the notion of a 9 year old girl making blatant, sexually-charged come-ons to her full-grown teacher. It may not be explicit and it may not hurt any actual, flesh-and-blood people, but it can set a dangerous precedence for tolerance for this kind of material, and that's a tolerance that I personally do not find acceptable. Further more, there are places that absolutely will not find that acceptable because either their laws or their courts have set far stricter precedents on the matter. Canada is the most obvious example. People there have been sued and convinced for possession of child porn because they bought loli-centric manga. I cannot see this book getting through Canadian customs because of that. American law is more vague on the matter, but popular opinion both inside and outside of anime/manga fandom is quite firm on the matter. They thoroughly reject anything that combines pre-pubescent children and anything remotely sexual, and no amount of "but it's just a harmless, common trope!" or "but it's meant to be funny!" will assuage them, any more than they would buy "she looks 9, but she's really a 1000 year old demon!" I can't stop you or anyone else in this thread from supporting this Kickstarter, but those in support of it can't be surprised or unaware of the fact that this title has a notorious history and deals with material that many both within and outside of the fandom find deeply objectionable. |
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DuchessBianca
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From google: "Puberty is the time in life when a young person starts to become sexually mature. In girls, puberty usually starts around 11 years of age, but it may start as early as 6 or 7 years of age." and "Some girls start their first period at 8 or 9 years old, while others don't start it until they're 15 or 16. The average age is 12 or 13." So while 10 is a young age it is certainly non uncommon or unheard of or as rare as you seem to think. As a girl I can tell you every girls body is 100% different. |
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Brainchild129
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LLC was also not meant to be humorous or appealing. It was meant to be dark and disturbing. It and KnJ are trying to achieve VERY different goal artistically. |
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caiqin
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Wasn't it an important plot point how that certain character developed faster than her peers, and had to go through stuff that was unimaginable to her friends (including tampons, bra and even sexual harassment which wasn't exactly depicted positively)? My apologies if this actually happened to other characters, it's been years since I've read the thing. But if I'm not wrong in my previous statement, I don't think it's a bad thing to point out that people are individuals and may experience their respective puberties at wildly different ages, and a 10-year old experiencing menstruation is not actually unheard of. I'd have a hard time defending lots of stuff in Watashiya's work but I just can't see how this would actually be among the more objectionable content. Though I indeed can't really comment on the anime adaptation as I've never seen that one. Just didn't feel it could have anything to offer after reading the original work. |
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MidoriUma
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This sort of stuff is just going to reinforce the public's perception that anime is just perverted cartoons.
And really, who the hell enjoys reading about a sexualized minor?? Like, would you feel comfortable leaving your daughter at a school/daycamp/pool/whatever with people who enjoyed this sort of thing? This is a depiction of a CHILD we're talking about here. There are some very disturbing people on here, who see nothing wrong with this. |
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CatSword
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If they were publicly discussing their interest in it, yes, I would be. But it is very likely you interact with someone on a regular basis you would feel comfortable around that enjoys "this sort of thing". |
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DuchessBianca
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And I/others should give a crap what the "public" may or may not think about the Anime/manga industry why exactly? |
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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well I can see that the shite posting is starting.. I'm going to pop some pop-corn and see how far this thread goes before it's locked.
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Agent355
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Uggh, I'm gonna put my two cents in after all.
You've hit the nail on the head here in terms of what bothers me specifically about this series. It gives the impression that the girls' dark backstories means that their behavior should be tolerated by the teacher which is wrong, wrong, wrong!. The first step in such a situation is SET BOUNDRIES. The second step is to call authorities, not to try to handle it yourself. Child abuse is a major trigger for me. The mishandling of severely emotionally disturbed children by licensed educators is a form of neglect. As someone who was both on the receiving end of abuse as a child and the ignorance of teachers on how to handle it, as well as someone who worked in education (at one point with an autistic teenage boy who did act out sexually towards me--so I've been there, exactly there, where the reacher in the story was, however briefly) that aspect of the manga bothers me the most. |
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MidoriUma
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Because if retailers receive backlash, they stop selling anime merchandise. Not everyone has a credit card to shop online. Anime conventions would also be at risk, as major hotel chains probably don't want anything to do with perceived pedophilia. On a more everyday level, it's nice to be able to talk about your hobby without explaining that you're not one of the perverts. |
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