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grooven
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I'll just say Gundam Seed Destiny and leave that up there.
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eltodesukane
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v1cious
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I completely agree with you on My Hime. That has to be one of the worst anime endings of all time. It was so bad that I didn't even watch My Otome. Even though it was only 12 episodes, I'd say Erased is a fine example of jumping the shark. The reveal of the killer was disappointing enough, but then it feels like writer had no idea what to do afterward, and basically spends the last three episodes destroying everything that made the Show good up to that point. spoiler[How do we solve the time travel issue? Well let's put the main character in a coma for 15 years. That makes perfect sense, and isn't lazy at all. That relationship we've been building for 9 episodes? Yeah let's throw all that out, have her marry someone else, and rub it in his face. Genius!]. The final confrontation in particular, was so embarrassingly bad that it defies explanation. Last edited by v1cious on Wed May 17, 2017 8:56 pm; edited 5 times in total |
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WingKing
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He also walked out on His & Her Circumstances several years later, which could have been another candidate series for this list, although I can't think of one specific moment that signalled "the end" for that series as much as it was more like watching a slowly-unfolding train wreck. |
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Gemnist
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By "buildup", I'm mainly referring to the decision to have spoiler[Lelouch's Geass become permanent.] While the show had focused on Euphemia for about five episodes at this point, it made no real attempts to do the aforementioned thing with the Geass. Maybe they tried to do it with Mao being a kind of foil, and it failed or something, but I just don't see anything that would have suggested they were getting to that point, other than that it was almost the end of the season and there needed to be a grand final battle. Also, to say it negatively impacted many of the characters would be an understatement, and it's part of the reason why I eventually became fed up with Euphemia. While I don't mind her character, her relationships are very contrived, with many - if not all of the - characters being infatuated with her despite how she directly contradicts many of the things that they believe in (with the exception of Suzaku, where the romance was pushed Kirito-Asuna style just to give Suzaku a "legit" reason to hate Lelouch). After she died, Cornelia became plot-armored and useless, disappearing for half of R2 and doing nothing but get shot in the second half. Suzaku basically became Darth Vader - a whiny little brat who just wanted to get laid - which would have been fine if his original mindset and new one weren't in service of the plot. And Nina... oh Lord, do I even have to explain her? In addition, the show treats them as if they are somehow victimized good guys, when all of them are mass murderers! I know the show is trying to replicate Gundam but, come on. This is just going too far. |
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harminia
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To be fair, the manga was not heaps better. It wasn't the same ending, but it was still as corny. spoiler[The best bit was that it happened at a picnic organised by the killer, which includes a flyer advertising the picnic which just screamed "TOTALLY NOT A TRAP!!!!!!!!!". Made me laugh.] Personally, spoiler[I didn't mind the coma thing, just because it made for some emotional developments, but it was admittedly kind of a cop out plus you never learn why he can go back in time...] |
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killjoy_the
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I agree with everyone that said that this isn't really what 'jumping the shark' really means.
I also don't really care too much and want to complain about anime betraying my expectations. I also don't want to get too into any of these more for laziness than anything. So, Re: Zero's whale fight. Initially I didn't take Jake's foreseeing of the downhill drop we were heading for given the "please cheer me up, Rem" episode, but oh boy did that thing have places to go that I didn't care. Higurashi turns into Scooby-Doo for its last arc. I get that the odds are bad and you sort of need to make it a .01% chance come true, but the way it went was awful. Can Chuunibyou's entire second season be considered jumping the shark? I vote yes. You should, too. I'm not too sure it fits even this already-thin-excuse for 'jump the shark' definition we're using because it recovered just fine afterwards but Samurai Champloo's zombie episode I had to freaking skip it was so bad. As soon as it went up its own Visual-Novel-routes routine, Steins; Gate turned predictable and boring. Now, for the stuff posted by people who actually gave lots of thought on it: I agree Kill la Kill was less fun for its second half, but I still thought it was half good. Disappointing at many points, but never enough to make me dislike the show. Code Geass' first season was full of ups and downs for me adding it all up to something quite fun, and the second season had less of both. I took a few months between watching them both, so I didn't mind some of the retreads too much. |
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ParaChomp
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tintor2
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I think even Tomino's Gundam jumped the shark with the movie CCA. It was supposed to be the final match between Amuro and Char but the latter was completely underdeveloped when compared with his previous appearances. Even if Char had better reasons for doing what he did, the rivalry is never solved. These two characters just keep talking and talking and the movie is done without a single resolution. The novel did it better by stating their fates though.
Then there is the subplot with Bright's kid and the girl he likes. It feels so out of placed and even unfinished. |
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Asterisk-CGY
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That's it! It had a song thing in the name. I got stuck on Eternal Sonata in my head, but I know that's that music history themed JRPG. |
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killjoy_the
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It was finished by the time the episode came out, but it was probably planned a lot in advance so during production the chapter was probably not done. The story verged a few chapters (months) before though, so the anime going its own way was pretty much planned and not a consequence of having to make do with what they had. |
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leafy sea dragon
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Well, some things are best left unexplained. I would say Erased would not be made better with an explanation for it, just as Star Wars didn't need the Midichlorian explanation nor would most horror films need origin stories for their villains. The focus of Erased was how the protagonist (forgot his name) used his ability to turn back time to help people around him, not how he got them.
Sure, a series can "jump the shark" and bounce back. People declare a series to jump the shark before it finishes, which does not discount the possibility that it can become good again. I mentioned it prior, but it's referred to as "growing the beard" (though it could also refer to an uptick in quality in a series with a rough start). |
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HyugaHinata
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I think Death Note should've been in the article. The whole arc with spoiler[Higuchi] was mostly pointless filler. It should've been obvious that spoiler[Light was guilty, especially after he had himself confined to "prove" his innocence - only a truly guilty party would go to such lengths.]
And the final arc with spoiler[Mello and Near] just padded out a series that had already outlived its welcome, IMO. |
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Alexis.Anagram
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For me, the triumphant commitment to showmanship in Code Geass ended up outweighing a lot of the very bad ideas that dragged it down to its lowest points, but with that in mind I actually prefer R2 to the first season, which gave us such rare gems as the Mao arc...and I'd agree with the sentiment that the spoiler[Euphemia massacre] constitutes a pretty fair leap over the proverbial shark well before perfect cinnamon Rolo gets around to Geass-ing the plot momentum.
Also also gotta agree 100% with an extra dose of salt over the Gohan cop out: even as a kid with not much of an opinion about the things I was watching DBZ managed to lose my interest after that. To this day I'm still like, Goten who? smh |
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SquadmemberRitsu
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People always say that Death Note's problems started after spoiler[L died] but honestly I think the troubles began right around the point where Light spoiler[got amnesia]. The whole dynamic between Light and L became really awkward and I couldn't have cared less about what the evil businessmen in their boardroom were scheming. I liked the climax of that arc, but a lot of it just felt pointless. As much as I don't like Near and Mello, I actually think that was my least favourite part of the series. |
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