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Zalis116
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I'd say that isn't as concerning as the fact that the country was on freaking fire earlier this year, and another climate-crisis-enhanced summer is just a few months away. |
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Leviathonlx
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Well I guess they could label it as adult and put it in an adult only section. I can see the main concern would be a kid walking in and opening up the book with the pretty cover and seeing softcore porn involving a child character. Sure kids see worse stuff all the time but that tends to be the go to argument. |
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Trendo
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Volume 1, 2 and 9 are banned, meanwhile Volume 3-8 and 10 are okay and it doesnt make any sense, because the content they mentioned as a reason for the ban is also in Volume 3,4,6,7,8, only 5 and 10 dont have this kind of content as a Illustration.
Some pictures in 4 and 6 showing even more nudity than 1,2 or 9. Volume 2 was banned because it has a Illustration from a flatchested girl in a bikini, the same girl appears in Volume 6 again in a colored illustration in full nudity. So, why is Vol 2 banned but not 6? Its the same with the other volumes too, same content and not banned I dont know if links to twitter are okay, but someone made a interesting tweet about it with all this pictures (censored), as evidence that the ban doesnt make sense |
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Blanchimont
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That could happen with any adult material. There's no difference. The point is storing the adult material, whatever it is, so kids can't access it. |
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Kisuke525
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As Blanchimont said before me it could happen with any adult material. They can just put it in an adult's only section and have a plastic wrap or something covering it so it can't be opened. Hell, if you wanna go even further have it stored in a case or behind a glass door that needs an employee key to be opened. Never seen it done with books before but I have for other things. |
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nargun
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Sure, but the print classification scheme has been disused for so long that nobody has a workflow to support it. (Don't vote for self-described centrists, kids: everybody has some sort of extreme opinion, calling yourself a "centrist" just means you don't know how to spot the things that make you unusual. Which means you'll double down on your mistakes and fun stuff like that. Unless -- even worse -- you're calling yourself a centrist because you'd rather do something you're convinced is wrong rather than attempt to persuade people or find someone who likes the idea to manage it: a person who won't stand for anything shouldn't stand for parliament.) |
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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So the only few options for those who are fans of NGNL in Australia is to either have someone smuggle in the volumes in "not sure what legal ramifications that would cause", or use a VPN and buy them digitally from a place where they aren't banned.
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Calsolum
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Lol I did the exact same thing, glad to know I'm not the only person who tried to verify this. The first illustration is vague though it is a very revealing shot of a fictional minor. the first thing i thought while staring at that section trying to figure out of it was water or the real thing is that this reminds me of that woman/old hag optical illusion. You stare at it long enough that details are obsure enough that you can fill in the gaps with what you want to see. I didn't think of it like that the first time around but I can see why other's could see it like that. The Vol 2 picture is as explained by Netero, Shiro at that specific moment has a Barbie-doll physiology so you could replicate this exact pose with a barbie doll... theoretically. Actually the more that I think about it you'd need a custom made doll to mimic this. BUT the point is that without knowing the specifc context of the scene it's quite easy to think that it's worse than it is. Which was definitely the angle the creators were going for. I understand the concern over child pornography but let's leave fictional characters out of this yeah? Put a higher rating for it if you absolutely must or seal the books in shrinkwrap but policing works of fiction always seemed like a poor use of resources that could be allocated elsewhere. |
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harminia
 Posts: 2002 Location: australia |
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Yeah, I guess it's not like, the literal vagina, but it's very heavily implying it. I believe in that picture there's also a nipple implied (though in most pictures they have barbie doll boobs) Have to say, hearing about a storyline where someone removes all female genitalia (including that of underage girls) via a shiritori game... If that's a plot point in vol 2 I can understand why the board is a bit concerned... __ I think the pictures are a large part of it, but the pictures reflect scenes from the book, which means they're expanded on. So I feel like maybe the content in these three books were worse than in the non-banned books, even if the other books had a bunch of barbie doll nudity and stuff. But I don't read the books so beyond the summary of vol 9 I read, i don't know of the specific content, though I do seem to remember from ep 1 of the anime (I only watched one episode) there was some sort of sexual stuff happening with the princess chick? So maybe that made the board uncomfortable. As I said before, they take sexual abuse and underage related sexualisation or abuse very very seriously. |
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LegitPancake
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Only Amazon Kindle has removed the ebooks. As far as I can see, the ebooks are still being sold in Australia on Kobo, Bookwalker, iTunes, Nook, Google Play Books, etc. |
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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@legitpancake That's good but I'm starting to wonder how long those options will be available. If companies are pressured hard enough, they will remove said content that's deemed offensive from their stores. Honestly this starting to become very tiresome to see on a weekly basis.
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kotomikun
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You're making a couple implicit assumptions here, though. One is that the majority of voters actually do want this (somewhat arbitrary) series censored. They might, but an infamous study in the US showed that, statistically, our representatives do what the rich and powerful want, and ignore the rest of us. They only follow the will of the people by coincidence, or because they told us what we wanted. Given that Australia is also a capitalist/globalist country, the same likely applies there. The other assumption is that "democracy" necessarily means that we always must use majority rule for everything, and everyone who disagrees is out of luck--no compromises. Which... people do like to believe when convenient, but has troubling implications. Truth be told, NGNL is possibly my least favorite anime of all time, so I'm not inclined to defend it, but this sort of thing is still concerning. I mean, technically you could use that law to ban something that depicts a 17-year-old stealing a bag of potato chips. Broad wording in legislation is rarely a good idea, and total censorship should be a last resort, if it's ever used at all. |
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Sakagami Tomoyo
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Because whether or not it seems pointless to you to read any part of a series without reading the whole lot of it, each book in the series is still purchasable individually, and each therefore has to be treated as its own entity. Consumers tend to get used to thinking of a series as an indivisible whole, but in every step of the process of publishing and selling them, it's just a bunch of individual books that happen to be related to each other. |
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Rederoin
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I too wish we would go back to puritan times. |
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Brent Allison
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If someone's response on an anime and manga fan forum is de facto "I want you to get fined and/or imprisoned for reading/watching this manga/anime in the privacy of your domicle," they're a troll. Every time. Ignore them and move on.
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