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MFrontier
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Well, their figures look a little more pronounced without their jackets on... |
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Electric Wooloo
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So how can Shin spoiler[Hear the voice of every legion if not every legion is a "Black Sheep" now? Is his sensory thing not related to his near death experience and is perhaps something else? I kinda hope so, don't want this series to go too supernatural.
Also since the Para-raid shares hearing, as said in episode 1, why doesn't Lena constantly hear the voices when connected if Shin constantly hears them? Really curious if this is explained.] |
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MFrontier
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spoiler[I could be forgetting but I think the idea is that their initial engagements had no Black Sheep and they're only coming in now from the rear.] |
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Key
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You needn't worry too much about this. (Very mild spoiler follows.) spoiler[It is a psychic power, but those are very rare bloodline traits in this setting. Shin doesn't realize that at this point because he's never met anyone else with a psychic ability and doesn't know about his bloodline.]
The novel version of this scene explains this slightly more, but some of what follows is based on assumptions from context: spoiler[The general voice of the Legion is incoherent, like background static. Only the voices of the Black Sheep and Shepherds come through distinctly. Also, how much Lena can hear depends on how high the Resonance on the Para-RAID is tuned. With a low enough setting, Lena would only hear the voices if the Black Sheep were close by. This fight is the first since Lena has become Spearhead's Handler where the Black Sheep have been present.] |
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Electric Wooloo
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Good to know, thanks. And I'm glad to hear about your first answer. I figured it had something to to with spoiler[The original legion brains being not complex enough/human enough or something to properly travel over the Para-RAID] |
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Key
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Man, I've watched the episode through fully twice (and partially a couple of more times) already and didn't catch the ghost image until Callum pointed it out. But yeah, totally agree that there's a lot of little details like that which can easily be overlooked on a single view. You could probably make an entire podcast just breaking down the visual cues, like the shot of the flowers when Shin first brings up the salvaging of intact human brains (the perfect flower gets revealed after the wilting one falls away), or the symbolism of the spilling ink pen given its timing, the appearance of the spider on the wall when Shin announces that the Legion is coming (significant because some of the Legion have vaguely spider-like appearances), or the specific way the crack in the mirror cuts Shin's head off in the final shot. Even liked the way the hole in the Juggernaut's armor allowed moonlight to shine down on young Lena (at around the 4:00 mark). Hell, I found myself wondering if some symbolic meaning was intended by the scene of the rats on the hanging light. Just about every shot in this series feels like it was specifically chosen to convey extra meaning. |
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Gina Szanboti
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Shin was talking about appropriating human brains off the battlefield while the rats were eating walnuts out of the shell. What does this remind you of? 
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saber721
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Another detail in this episode I loved was the fact the flowers were wilting because Kaie was the one taking care of them, as shown in episode 1. And since she's dead they've been left to wilt and die, as if that part of the Spearhead squadrons peaceful life back at base died with her.
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Key
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Nice catch on the details on both previous posts.! I probably should have gotten the "nut in shell = brain in skull" allusion, but I had lost track of the fact that Kaie was the one watering the flowers. |
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dm
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So now I'm wondering if Lena's father's brain might be one of those ghost commanders.
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Iron Maw
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That's a good question I doubt because it Shourei destroyed the one that killed him. Vaclav body was most likely retrieved afterwards once the incident was reported. |
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MFrontier
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I would've thought Lena would think immediately to what happened to her father as to whether the Legion have been harvesting brains since then, unless she and her mother never got a body to bury. |
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saber721
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Honestly he could be.
spoiler[There's a scene in Vol 3 of the LN that could be implying that he is one. Although this is highly speculative. Excerpt from vol 3: The Supreme Commander unit was a Shepard whose call sign was No Face. It had lost the ability to even discern the faces of its wife and beloved daughter, but its human conviction alone remained intact. The fact that this ghost was capable of enjoying such cruel irony was proof of the education it had been graced with during its lifetime. Another excerpt a few paragraphs later: The Supreme Commander unit had long since stopped thinking it was fruitless. It had lost its words years ago, when it died on the Eighty-Sixth Sector's battlefield.] |
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Electric Wooloo
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I really enjoy the dichotomy of perspectives in this show. The way the series goes to great lengths showing how Lena/Spearhead view the same things differently all the way down to how different the mental image of Shin's brother is to Lena compared to Shin.
I am curious about 1 thing this episode though maybe a LN reader knows. spoiler[Who else is in Lena "Remembrance Jar"? There's Daiya and Lecca who died this episode, and Kaie who died in episode 3, but I don't remember any other deaths while Lena has been the Handler and there were 5 slips of paper in there in total. Did these happen off-screen or am I misremembering?] |
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Gingi7890
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This is my first time (i think? it's been a while) posting, so i'm trying to not mess up the spoiler tag: spoiler[ In the novel, Lena doesn't have a remembrance jar. Daiya's death is mentioned in passing, and you don't know how a lot of the other processors die. There's a scene with Anju and Kurena in the shower (not a fanservice scene whatsoever) where they mention that they're the last two women in the squad at that point - but this is territory that isn't really covered in the novels. I like the characterization, to be honest.] Speaking of which, this could be a way for the timeline that was mentioned on the first page (the first cour to run the first novel) to work. They are extending it, but I don't mind the way they're doing it. I would like them to get through the fourth by the end of the second season, but at this pace, I kind of doubt it. Loving the series, though. 
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