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NEWS: Cease & Desist Letters for Eva: 1.0, Soul Eater Fansubs

DmonHiro wrote:

PS: If you listen, then answer this: You sent a C&D letter. What is the alternative to fansubs for Soul Eater? I'll tell you: NONE. It's fansubs or nothing.

There is an alternate: Supporting the official dvd release in Japan, even if it hasn't caught up. You could also go through watching the raws, which are still easily obtainable if you want to finish the series. There's also a way to actually watch the series as it airs in Japan, alot easier than it was in the past. If you don't understand what's going on, you can always go look up summaries for the episode, as people make blogs for this series that go over the main points of the episode.

To say that there is no alternative is pretty untrue.

Reading your other post, I realize it's expensive to import and honestly, it's hard on my budget (Worse on me, since I don't have a real source of income as of yet). However, I do try to support the official releases in some fashion, whether it means importing or buying the locally released DVDs. Really, if you're a fan you should support the release, whether it means going through importing or not but only when funds allow it.

And why should I go through the trouble to watch the raws, and then go look for summaries to see what I didn't understand, when I could just watch a fansub?

Also, downloading watching fansubs is bad, but downloading and watching the raws is OK? Can you say "hypocrisy"?

Seriously, if you want to watch the rest of the series, that's a reasonable way of doing so. I'm not trying to be rude, but saying that it isn't is rather laughable. Believe it or not, there are alot of shows that don't get fansubs or subs in any shape or form, and people either relay on their knowledge of Japanese (fluent or not fluent) and/or they go through blogs/sites/forums that cover each episode.

Actually most anime series air first in TV in Japan, DVDs follows AFTER that. So it's made for TV in the first place. So why is watching anime outside Japan all about buying expensive DVDs??!

Bottom line is watching anime on broadcast TV is not the same as watching a popular TV show on say ABC. Unlike ABC's programs, Most anime are not designed to earn money from broadcast TV but DVD sales.[/url]

OK, you may be right, but I'm 100% sure a lot of people in Japan record anime on TV and collect it that way and don't buy DVDs. Especially when it airs late at night.

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Think about what you're asking. If you got caught shoplifting would you expect the shop owners to take it off you or say "if you want it that badly, we'll give you a discount"? The Japanese companies don't "owe" you anything.

oh please this analogy is so flawed and overused. Gah! You can't compare theft of digital merchandise to theft of tangible merchandise. It just doesn't work or make any kind of sense and just enters some murky area of analogies that sound as stupid as they are.

Mr. sickVisionz wrote:

when somebody actually stops someone from buying something and tells them, "i'll give you my fansubs" you can't argue that its some harmless thing with zero impact and is only for spreading interest in shows and is actually just free promotion for companies to sell DVDs.

Can't agree more. I saved my friend some cash the other day. He thought about buying Speed Grapher. I said to him, "huge mistake dude, watch a few episodes with these here fansubs."

and I will ALWAYS provide this service. are you some kind of ******* that sits back and watches your friends buy stuff you know to be shit??

And while we're on topic with Funimation -- those of you who haven't seen the subs for these titles from the past few years:
Heroic Age, Shikabane Hima, 009-1, My Santa, Bacanno, Guyver, Wallflower, Solty-Rei; don't buy them sight-unseen. You have been warned.

configspace wrote:

I also don't understand the idea that local Japanese anime industry heavily relies on R1 licensing.

You would be surprised. Granted, some series are too niche for overseas sales but the majority of shows get pitched for overseas licensing.

With profit margins constricting in Japan itself, producers and publishers become more amenable to foreign sales. Anime and manga abroad, particularly in America, is another side-effect of the boom and bust, and a generation later, the fact that the American market plays such a great part in Japanese business decisions is at leasat in part a result of deals done in the Bubble period.
But what if the American economy starts to slump...? Who's going to pay for anime then?

"Twelve years ago," I say, "an anime production producer told me that the foreign market as worth only 10 percent of a Japanese company's interest. Can you put a number on it now?"
"Sure," says Sam. "It's 50 percent of our business. Haf of our plans, half of our selections, are geared directly toward foreign makets, specifically America. And it's worth 50 pecent of our profits."
There's your tipping point. If Sam's numbers are repeated across the other companies, modern anime is only half-conceived with a Japanese audience in mind. There's still domestic market, but you can expect to see increasing numbers of anime made for foreigners.