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MagicPolly



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:16 am Reply with quote
As I said on the new article for it, I'm actually kinda excited for the MiA game. Seems like the kind of thing I'd like with exploration and collection, sort of like Atelier but without the alchemy. And it being based on an anime I like is a plus.

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Persona 4 Arena Ultimax on PC and PS4 was updated with rollback netcode

I'd be sad about this as a switch owner, but I can't actually play online because of how bad I am at the game haha. I only bought it for the plot.
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Lord Geo



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Shingo Yabuki, who hasn't been seen in King of Fighters since 2002: Unlimited Match (and is voiced by Takehito Koyasu, so prepare for some friggin' VOICES)


Sadly, this isn't a guaranteed thing, as SNK recast just about everybody in their recent games of the past decade or so, with the only exceptions being Kong Kuwata still voicing Geese (KOF) & Genjuro (SamSho), Harumi Ikoma still voicing King (& no one else she voiced), & Yumi Kakazu still voicing Kula. Could Koyasu be another exception? Sure, and I'd love to see it happen, but don't go thinking it's a guarantee that he'll be back.

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It's complicated; Fatal Fury has been largely “over” as a series since the 90s, with many of the Fatal Fury cast brought back time and again for the greater King of Fighter series, consistency with the Fatal Fury series be damned (because by this point, Geese Howard is just a bloody smear on the pavement several times over).


It's not "complicated" at all: KOF is a separate universe from the "main" SNK universe, simple as that.

In the main universe, just about all of the non-KOF SNK fighters take place in the same exact overall continuity, like Art of Fighting taking place in the late-70s/early-80s, Fatal Fury taking place during the 90s (MotW is the mid-00s, a.k.a "10 years after Real Bout Fatal Fury"), SamSho taking place in the late 1700s/early 1800s, Last Blade taking place in the mid-1800s, etc., with the only iffy ones being the Fu'un Series (Savage Reign & Kizuna Encounter), which are super vague as to how far into the future they take place. It's why you get stuff like an older Ryo appearing in Buriki-One as the new Mr. Karate (it takes place in 1999, i.e. ~20 years after AoF1), or LB's Zantetsu hinted at being the founder of the ninja style that AoF's Eiji Kisaragi uses, because there's actual continuity to the main SNK universe. Ryo appearing in Fatal Fury Special was just a fun little Easter egg, nothing more.

KOF, though, threw all of that away instantly, as Terry & Ryo had to be of similar age for KOF '94 to really make sense, because otherwise Ryo would be a middle-aged man in that game & his father Takuma would have to be around Chin Gentsai's age. However, it's implied that the events of the Fatal Fury & Art of Fighting series have still taken place in the KOF universe, which is why Ryo still has a past with Geese & Terry is still raising Rock, despite Geese having never died (which would mean that Geese did a lot of evil crap in just the span maybe a handful of years!). Sure, that results in some wonkiness with the timeline, but none of that really matters when it comes to the main KOF storylines, as they're just general backstories for the legacy characters. That's also why Nakoruru was part of Team Another World in KOF XIV, as she came from the main SNK universe to be a part of KOF, i.e. "Another World", and it'll obviously be the same for Haohmaru & Darli this time around. SNK is still maintaining that KOF is its own separate universe from all of its other fighting games.

It is annoying that "KOF is an alternate universe" seems to be a foreign (& unacceptable) concept to many people online, including the likes of Maximilian Dood (though, at this point, I'm sure Max does this on purpose just to mess with his chat, because he has fun doing that), because it's nowhere near as complicated to understand as people like to make it out to be. The new Fatal Fury game, just like SamSho VII/2019, will be taking place in the main SNK universe & will have no relation to KOF XIV or XV, in terms of lore.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:23 am Reply with quote
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First off, four new monsters: Golden Rathian, Silver Rathalos, Lucent Nargacuga, Seething Bazelgeuse,


Don’t know about Lucent Narcacuga but the other three definitely aren’t new Mad

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I'm side-eying the season passes, though, because I just flat-out hate that business model full-stop. Doubly so when the game already has a $45 price tag and a $65 digital deluxe edition (and no, cosmetics don't make up for it—remember when you used to be able to just unlock hats through gameplay?).


Depends how hard and obnoxious was it to unlock these things under normal circumstances?
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Kicksville



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:51 am Reply with quote
Lord Geo wrote:
It is annoying that "KOF is an alternate universe" seems to be a foreign (& unacceptable) concept to many people online, including the likes of Maximilian Dood (though, at this point, I'm sure Max does this on purpose just to mess with his chat, because he has fun doing that), because it's nowhere near as complicated to understand as people like to make it out to be. The new Fatal Fury game, just like SamSho VII/2019, will be taking place in the main SNK universe & will have no relation to KOF XIV or XV, in terms of lore.

There's a developer interview translated nearly two years ago by "It's Fantastic" from a King of Fighters '94 book - and they state right there that the story is separate from FF/AOF. So in Japan, this was known from the start.

Meanwhile, we never received that information overseas, and so you had years of rampant speculation and fan fiction on how, exactly, everything connected. Just a few time retcons and you've got yourself a Marvel comic. The first time I saw it dawn on everyone that it just couldn't be right was when Geese showed up alive and well in the Outlaw Team's story for KOF 2003.

Of course, that was, jeez, 20 years ago now, and it seems like the ability to share bits of information has in some ways actually gotten worse over time, so I'm not surprised this has ended up remaining an enduring point of confusion for so long.
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Silver Kirin



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:00 am Reply with quote
Lord Geo wrote:
Sadly, this isn't a guaranteed thing, as SNK recast just about everybody in their recent games of the past decade or so, with the only exceptions being Kong Kuwata still voicing Geese (KOF) & Genjuro (SamSho), Harumi Ikoma still voicing King (& no one else she voiced), & Yumi Kakazu still voicing Kula. Could Koyasu be another exception? Sure, and I'd love to see it happen, but don't go thinking it's a guarantee that he'll be back.

Well, Benimaru is still voiced by his original voice actor, same thing with Ash and Whip. Not to mention that Maxima is still voiced by Katsuyuki Konishi, who voiced him since KOF '99, and like Koyasu he has voiced lots of popular characters in anime (Kamina, Diavolo, Tengen Uzui), since SNK has hired a lot of major voice actors for KOF XV I think they can bring Koyasu back as Shingo.
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Lord Geo



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:06 pm Reply with quote
Silver Kirin wrote:
Lord Geo wrote:
Sadly, this isn't a guaranteed thing, as SNK recast just about everybody in their recent games of the past decade or so, with the only exceptions being Kong Kuwata still voicing Geese (KOF) & Genjuro (SamSho), Harumi Ikoma still voicing King (& no one else she voiced), & Yumi Kakazu still voicing Kula. Could Koyasu be another exception? Sure, and I'd love to see it happen, but don't go thinking it's a guarantee that he'll be back.

Well, Benimaru is still voiced by his original voice actor, same thing with Ash and Whip. Not to mention that Maxima is still voiced by Katsuyuki Konishi, who voiced him since KOF '99, and like Koyasu he has voiced lots of popular characters in anime (Kamina, Diavolo, Tengen Uzui), since SNK has hired a lot of major voice actors for KOF XV I think they can bring Koyasu back as Shingo.


Ah, yes, I do keep forgetting about some of those others for some reason, but the wide majority have still been recast, including long-time voices like Satoshi Hashimoto (Terry & Kim), Masahiro Nonaka (Kyo), & Kunihiko Yasui (Iori). I'm just saying to keep expectations in check & hope for the best, but not necessarily think that Koyasu will be automatically reprising.

Kicksville wrote:
Meanwhile, we never received that information overseas, and so you had years of rampant speculation and fan fiction on how, exactly, everything connected. Just a few time retcons and you've got yourself a Marvel comic. The first time I saw it dawn on everyone that it just couldn't be right was when Geese showed up alive and well in the Outlaw Team's story for KOF 2003.


Yeah, I remember people going wild trying to figure out how Southtown's destruction in KOF 2000 lead to Mark of the Wolves, because of the fact that it was called "Second Southtown" in that game, even though that name is simply because Geese was no longer in control, and there was never any indication that Southtown was destroyed in any way in MotW. Some people just love trying to figure lore out, sometimes, that they don't even consider the simplest solution.
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Barbobot



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:05 pm Reply with quote
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First off, four new monsters: Golden Rathian, Silver Rathalos, Lucent Nargacuga, Seething Bazelgeuse,


Don’t know about Lucent Narcacuga but the other three definitely aren’t new Mad


Neither is Lucent, but they are new to Rise.
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FallenDomino



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:42 pm Reply with quote
Good to see rollback everywhere.

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I bemoaned how so many anime get arena fighters as game adaptations, almost to the exclusion of anything else


Someone I follow on Twitter made a spreadsheet some time ago about this and it turns out that this is wrong. Most anime actually get a visual novel or RPG. Arena fighters are way in the back.
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Hoppy800



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:48 pm Reply with quote
Nintendo? Please release a general direct sometime soon, there are so many RPGs that need to be covered for the fall and winter.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:28 pm Reply with quote
Lord Geo wrote:
Silver Kirin wrote:
Lord Geo wrote:
Sadly, this isn't a guaranteed thing, as SNK recast just about everybody in their recent games of the past decade or so, with the only exceptions being Kong Kuwata still voicing Geese (KOF) & Genjuro (SamSho), Harumi Ikoma still voicing King (& no one else she voiced), & Yumi Kakazu still voicing Kula. Could Koyasu be another exception? Sure, and I'd love to see it happen, but don't go thinking it's a guarantee that he'll be back.

Well, Benimaru is still voiced by his original voice actor, same thing with Ash and Whip. Not to mention that Maxima is still voiced by Katsuyuki Konishi, who voiced him since KOF '99, and like Koyasu he has voiced lots of popular characters in anime (Kamina, Diavolo, Tengen Uzui), since SNK has hired a lot of major voice actors for KOF XV I think they can bring Koyasu back as Shingo.


Ah, yes, I do keep forgetting about some of those others for some reason, but the wide majority have still been recast, including long-time voices like Satoshi Hashimoto (Terry & Kim), Masahiro Nonaka (Kyo), & Kunihiko Yasui (Iori). I'm just saying to keep expectations in check & hope for the best, but not necessarily think that Koyasu will be automatically reprising.


Terry not being voiced by Hashimoto just... never stopped feeling "wrong". And it's not that the new guy does a bad job, it's just... that's not what "CRACK SHOOT" is supposed to sound like. That's not what "ARE YOU OKAY?!" is supposed to sound like. Hashimoto didn't do the Fatal Fury movie, either, and that was also a bummer.

Still love that movie, and I just got the email that the steelbox was shipped to me. Smile

Also: Mayumi Shintani as Angel. Nevermind Angel being my girl, Shintani just... nailed the role. So all of the subsequent VAs just felt "off" to me. SNK. Please. Do it for the Latinos. Anime cry
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:48 pm Reply with quote
A year is my guess for XBC3.

Tem Tem certainly won't be toppling much less inspiring much if anything with Pokemon/Game freak, and i highly doubt it'll light any fire under em either. Certainly not with those season passes which will exclude a lot of kids/teens if u need those to play the game. Also, and while i mean no disrespect to Tem Tem and its creators, to me the designs look bad and uninspiring. Pokemon takes MANY dif real world inspirations and incorporates them into the design of the mon and its name and even its dex entries. (Just watch Lockstin&Noggin's vids for great examples of this) and is built to appeal to kids, teens and adults. Also unlike Tem Tem, Pokemon doesn't have season passes, thus making it more affordable for kids and teens. In short, if the crazy pops for a while Yokai Watch with its kids are big into it and playing didn't do a thing to Pokemon, neither will Tem Tem with its season passes. Also, not helping that Tem Tem looks like its a mobile game with micro transactions and dailies to do... (That's just the vibe I got from what I saw, not saying it is one, i certainly won't be playing it)

Now a series that DID inspire Pokemon/GF is Digimon and i for one am enjoying Digimon Survive, slowly cus been busy. Its also like the only Monster based game that i can thing of that Survived the many fallen monster games alongside Pokemon. (Pu not intended with the latest game's name and was a coincidence)
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Zimmer



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rain's Yuki Ikeda is back with a new game! Titled Tokyo Stories, very little is known besides its tentative 2023 release date. The trailer is moody and atmospheric, I love it a lot. I'm definitely gonna be keeping an eye on it.
Alright, now it's got my attention. Even though I've never played rain... I should get to that. If it was on more recent platforms or even just Sony didn't bork the PS3 store, I'd probably have got to it already.
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Los Nido



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:53 am Reply with quote
Villain-chan wrote:
Now a series that DID inspire Pokemon/GF is Digimon and i for one am enjoying Digimon Survive, slowly cus been busy. Its also like the only Monster based game that i can thing of that Survived the many fallen monster games alongside Pokemon. (Pu not intended with the latest game's name and was a coincidence)


Digimon Cybersleuth was a nice pair of games. I liked the formula and gameplay it went for. Survive certainly has rubbed some people the wrong way who weren't expecting a visual novel.

Dragon Quest Monsters is somewhat active. There was a remake on 3DS and on Mobile there's Dragon Quest Tact which is a Tactics version of that style of using monsters to fight.. The upcoming Dragon Quest Treasures seems to be a spiritual success to it since you can raise and fight along side monsters as well.

Monster Hunter Stories 2 came out not long ago as well, and I thought it was a fun little game. But I suppose it's more of a spin-off than a dedicated monster franchise.

Personally, I'm a fan of Azure Dreams on Playstation the most. I felt it had the perfect blend of RPG, monster raising, and life sim elements. I would love to see another game in that style one day.

Some competition would be nice for Pokemon and hopefully motivate them to pick up the pace, but I don't think this Tem Tem game is going to be the one to do that any more than Dauntless did for Monster Hunter.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:45 pm Reply with quote
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Some competition would be nice for Pokemon and hopefully motivate them to pick up the pace,


You’ve had Digimon, Monster Rancher, & Yokai Watch….safe to say this isn’t happening. Not to mention it doesn’t need to happen to motivate gamefreak to switch things up.
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