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TitanXL
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| CG-LOVER wrote: | | I must say that I do not really understand why some people feel that though this venture will automatically fail. Well, what does failing even entail anyway? I mean you can't expect that the new Toonami will do any worse than the current [adult swim] action block right? That's the only definition of failure that I can think of here. What's more, people complain that this block will not have any new programming but they've already confirmed that we will be getting something new, so there's that as well. Honestly, I can only see this being a good thing for [adult swim]. The people looking for the nostalgia of Toonami might come back and start watching again, and the people who were already watching the [as] action block won't really have a reason not to continue watching will they? This seems like a win-win to me. |
Because the entire argument (that matters) in favor of Toonami is "it'll bring in new American anime fans".
However this gets counter-argued by your statement; as you say, it's appealing to nostalgia; i.e. people who already know about Toonami and are, in fact, anime fans, who just want to tune in to relive the good old days. That's not capturing a new audience at all. The only 'new' people being attracted to watch Adult Swim's anime stuff is nostalgic anime fans, people who already watch anime, just not anime on TV, which makes it fairly pointless if the goal is to get people who don't watch anime into it. There's better ways to market anime if that is their desired goal.
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Divineking
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:56 pm
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| TitanXL wrote: |
| CG-LOVER wrote: | | I must say that I do not really understand why some people feel that though this venture will automatically fail. Well, what does failing even entail anyway? I mean you can't expect that the new Toonami will do any worse than the current [adult swim] action block right? That's the only definition of failure that I can think of here. What's more, people complain that this block will not have any new programming but they've already confirmed that we will be getting something new, so there's that as well. Honestly, I can only see this being a good thing for [adult swim]. The people looking for the nostalgia of Toonami might come back and start watching again, and the people who were already watching the [as] action block won't really have a reason not to continue watching will they? This seems like a win-win to me. |
Because the entire argument (that matters) in favor of Toonami is "it'll bring in new American anime fans".
However this gets counter-argued by your statement; as you say, it's appealing to nostalgia; i.e. people who already know about Toonami and are, in fact, anime fans, who just want to tune in to relive the good old days. That's not capturing a new audience at all. The only 'new' people being attracted to watch Adult Swim's anime stuff is nostalgic anime fans, people who already watch anime, which makes it fairly pointless. |
There is of course the possibility of new people tuning into the block. Mind you I don;t expect new viewers to suddenly flood there. but new fans can possibly be born from this. Plus as already mentioned the only real way for this to "fail" would be it somehow getting lower ratings than AS saturdays would normally which is rather unlikely.
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:40 pm
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| Divineking wrote: |
| TitanXL wrote: |
| CG-LOVER wrote: | | I must say that I do not really understand why some people feel that though this venture will automatically fail. Well, what does failing even entail anyway? I mean you can't expect that the new Toonami will do any worse than the current [adult swim] action block right? That's the only definition of failure that I can think of here. What's more, people complain that this block will not have any new programming but they've already confirmed that we will be getting something new, so there's that as well. Honestly, I can only see this being a good thing for [adult swim]. The people looking for the nostalgia of Toonami might come back and start watching again, and the people who were already watching the [as] action block won't really have a reason not to continue watching will they? This seems like a win-win to me. |
Because the entire argument (that matters) in favor of Toonami is "it'll bring in new American anime fans".
However this gets counter-argued by your statement; as you say, it's appealing to nostalgia; i.e. people who already know about Toonami and are, in fact, anime fans, who just want to tune in to relive the good old days. That's not capturing a new audience at all. The only 'new' people being attracted to watch Adult Swim's anime stuff is nostalgic anime fans, people who already watch anime, which makes it fairly pointless. |
There is of course the possibility of new people tuning into the block. Mind you I don;t expect new viewers to suddenly flood there. but new fans can possibly be born from this. Plus as already mentioned the only real way for this to "fail" would be it somehow getting lower ratings than AS saturdays would normally which is rather unlikely. |
Actually, given the increased cost of putting this on the air (new promos, licenses, etc) if it was to do the same, it would hurt them far more financially.
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Farix
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:11 pm
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| Beatdigga wrote: | | Actually, given the increased cost of putting this on the air (new promos, licenses, etc) if it was to do the same, it would hurt them far more financially. |
I think it is more about rebranding a segment of [as] that doesn't fit into the rest of the lineup. The [as] brand is based entirely around adult comedy series, but the Saturday block are mostly action series. By resurrecting the Toonami brand, which is already associated with action series, they can make a clear distinction between their action and comedy series when it comes to marketing their advertisement space to potential sponsors.
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RyanSaotome
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:27 pm
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Sunday Silence
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:50 pm
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Translation: "Ignore the next Tim and Eric sh**fest we greenlighted."
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jr240483
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:57 am
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| Soundmonkey44 wrote: | If Toonami ever aired a fan service title it should be one that has some action in it. Too bad Tenjou Tenge is in limbo atm.  |
Forget that idea. Tenjou Tenge is also in the same catagory as Ikkitousen and ESPECIALLY Grils Bravo & Queens Blade.
NEVER EVER GONNA GET A BROADCAST!!
Though Tenjou Tenge got one thanks to Fuse TV, it was massively edited , and unless they make an anime sequel for the series , it's highly unlikely those three series will be included.
It's like a said before, the only fanservice based series they'll show are those from harem series like Rosario + Vampire , Love Hina or even Negima.
Though the best best for the revivial is Shouen jump based series.
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