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REVIEW: Death Note DVD

Anyway, I have to go. But please, if you do respond, actually think for a change. And don't be a hypocrite, because that's what you were being back there.

Let me turn that around back to you. Are you content to let innocent people be murdered by the state and just talk about statistics and "Oh, well at least we double-checked". Because that's what you are doing right this moment.

You cannot have it both ways. You cannot complain that Light is killing the innocent along with the guilty without also admitting that you condone the same system. And you cannot assert that the system is good without also - however begrudgingly - allow Light to use it as the basis for his actions. You are holding up a double-standard, several of them in fact. Don't say the system is bad for Light and that he should not use it, and then turn around and claim that it is good for everyone else to use. Murder is murder, whether Light does it or the court system does.

I thought you were better than that, especially since you are a criminal justice major. Indeed, you should be grateful that Light was following a widely-trusted system at all, rather than just kill anyone who irked him like most people would have.

What makes him any different from a mass murderer? He's still killing people en mass based on his personal code. You think any other mass murderer or serial killer is different? How is Light any different from them when he is doing the exact same thing?

The saddest thing about this is that you're a textbook hyper-arrogant sociopath but probably won't ever get anywhere near actually realizing it.

.../...

But I do feel the need to say that in spite of what you tell yourself, you are actually loud and crazy and ridiculous.

Hyprocracy is not embracing something that is flawed. Hypocracy is thinking "I will rid the world of criminals... BY MURDER." I'd rather have a jury of my peers than the Khmer Rouge any damned day of the week, and I'm sure you would, too.

Do you know how DIFFICULT it is to get a death sentence carried out in the US?

You are correct in a sense that we do feel an alignment with Light at the beginning. Then Ray Penbar buys it and you start asking yourself questions. A big part of Death Note is "where will it stop?" What happens when you find out that you jay-walked? What about if your mom and dad didn't go to work one day? If Kira has this much time on his hands...

Let me turn that around back to you. Are you content to let innocent people be murdered by the state and just talk about statistics and "Oh, well at least we double-checked". Because that's what you are doing right this moment.

You cannot have it both ways. You cannot complain that Light is killing the innocent along with the guilty without also admitting that you condemn the same system. And you cannot assert that the system is good without also - however begrudgingly - allow Light to use it as the basis for his actions. You are holding up a double-standard, several of them in fact. Don't say the system is bad for Light and that he should not use it, and then turn around and claim that it is good for everyone else to use. Murder is murder, whether Light does it or the court system does.

I thought you were better than that, especially since you are a criminal justice major. Indeed, you should be grateful that Light was following a widely-trusted system at all, rather than just kill anyone who irked him like most people would have.

Hy-po-crite.

I have no idea as to what you mean by "porcupine". But moving on, I certainly wouldn't want to live in a world where just anyone was given the Death Note. But I have to say, Light was spot on when he said that he was the best person for the job. His world would have been a much better one than there is currently. Sure, it would have been filled with sycophants, at least until Mikami came along.

But a world with low crime, low corruption rates, small prison populations, money to spend on health and education, where the innocent are happy and the guilty live in fear...? I don't know, it sounds like paradise to me.

Anyway, I have to go. But please, if you do respond, actually think for a change. And don't be a hypocrite, because that's what you were being back there.

Bye.

As for the rest, it is just opinion, and you can't argue opinion, for or against.

Maybe I'm wrong, but hasn't dtm42 spoken against Light in the past? Is this all just some kind of elaborate joke?

Zac wrote:

The saddest thing about this is that you're a textbook hyper-arrogant sociopath but probably won't ever get anywhere near actually realizing it. .../... But I do feel the need to say that in spite of what you tell yourself, you are actually loud and crazy and ridiculous.

Hey cool, a free psychiatric diagnosis. If only it wasn't given over the Internet, by someone I don't know and who probably does not have a degree in psychiatry. But hey, you get what you pay for.

When everybody's had their say on this forum, you may try writing in the last word to make you feel like you've won, but the real truth is that you'll remain the only one who believes that.

You likewise are just some random forumite on an Anime newssite with probably no scholarly position to say that everything about Light is right like as if it was an inarguable fact.

For once could we have the evil guy win?

TokyoGetter wrote:

Hyprocracy is not embracing something that is flawed. Hypocracy is thinking "I will rid the world of criminals... BY MURDER." I'd rather have a jury of my peers than the Khmer Rouge any damned day of the week, and I'm sure you would, too.

No, the judge and jury was provided by the state. The executioner, well that was Kira's job.

The last chunk of death note is what keeps Light from remaining morally ambiguous. It's obvious to me that if they had ended Death Note before the last arc (Which I fully believe was the original intention), it would not have been made into a movie or an anime. It ran in Shonen Jump guys.

Light starts to go nuts early on, but what appealed to me about DN was that neither Light nor L were 'good' or 'evil'. They both had an attitude that the ends justify the means. When the creators decided to take the easy route and make Light 'evil', I was disappointed, cause the story could have done more, and been better. But it is a Shonen Jump manga, and for children, ambiguity would probably not have been considered acceptable.

And the police/detectives couldn't just ignore Kira, what sane person would leave the fate of the entire world in the hands of one person whose mental stability is highly questionable? And since I've heard Light eventually considers in time killing those who are merely lazy (I don't remember this part, but my friend swears it was there), their fears were confirmed.

Psycho 101 wrote:

The simplest point to make is NO ONE should have the power Light had. As the saying goes; powers corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. No matter how good his intentions started off as he became nothing more then a sociopath in the end and that's all his doing. No one else's as you would infer. The fact this debate is going on here is creepy enough. I thought porcupine was gone...

My last post on this I swear:
The writers say basically the same thing as this in Volume 13 (the one full of extras, interviews, etc.) when they say that Light could have been a great detective and a good person (if a bit of a jerk)... but once he laid hands on the Death Note, he was doomed.

Furthermore, I do believe that early on when Light was describing his plan, he explained that after the worse crimes, like murder, were eliminated by fear of Kira's retaliation, he'd move on to lesser crimes, like theft.