Forum - View topicWhat Penguindrum Can Teach Us About Extremism
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dm
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I read the links, not to "modern day right-wing Americans" (in the sense of conservatives), but, when talking about Americans, to people who shoot up synagogues and shopping malls, trash the Capitol and threaten to hang the Vice President. If you choose to conflate those people with the right in general, that's your confusion. In fact, I wasn't reading it in a purely American context at all since right-wing authoritarianism is growing in much of the (in some cases, formerly) democratic world. |
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Guile
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Which is also a very dangerous mindset to have. If you want a real world example of the harm this causes, look no further than how the media has distorted anti-Asian hate in America to be about white supremacy, despite the fact most anti-Asian hate crimes are perpetrated by black people. Those who speak out, like Daniel Dae Kim and Daniel Wu, are criticized and told to keep their mouth shut and stay in their lane, or labeled as racist, ensuring that the issue will never be resolved. |
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ANN_Lynzee
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There's a very good documentary that discusses issues between the Black and Asian communities in America that I recommend here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WUuya94QE |
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Yttrbio
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NeverConvex
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This will probably quickly get mod'd for focusing on a tangent rather than the main article, but I don't think this is true. For example: Fraga and Miller found that black voters constituted 11.4 percent of those voting in Texas in 2016 with ID but 16.1 percent of those voting without ID, which shows clear evidence of a disparate racial impact. Likewise, Latino voters made up 19.8 percent of those voting with an ID but 20.7 percent of those voting without an ID. So even if voter ID laws haven’t swung election outcomes, they can deny thousands of people their right to vote — denials that fall disproportionately on black and Latino citizens. Whether voter ID laws swing elections is far from their only important consequence... ...Those disparate impacts are clear from a second newly released study, too, which also used individual-level records to provide a more granular view of precisely who is affected by voter ID policies. In Michigan’s 2016 general election, voters who arrived at the polls without ID were able to vote after they signed an affidavit. Researchers Phoebe Henninger, Marc Meredith and Michael Morse2 collected these affidavits to identify a set of voters who would have been turned away under a stricter policy, like the laws in Georgia, Virginia and Wisconsin. By their calculation, about 28,000 voters — or 0.6 percent of 2016 Michigan voters — lacked photo identification. Those 28,000 voters were more nonwhite and more Democratic than the Michigan electorate overall. I don't think the effect sizes are typically large enough to flip an election by themselves, though, no -- although, small effects have become increasingly important in the past 25 years (with, for example, elections much more closely contested than they have been historically, to the point that most of the POTUS's that lost the popular vote have occurred in that period of time), and if multiple small effects point in the same direction they can become an effect of larger size, so it may be increasingly difficult to bet that that will continue to be the case. |
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nobahn
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Just wanted to thank you for the link. I find it utterly fascinating that there is neither a single upvote nor a single downvote for that documentary. |
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NeverConvex
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With recent Youtube changes, I think downvotes are no longer publicly visible. Still, wild that it hasn't gotten a single upvote. That's downright unbelievable for a video viewed so many times -- maybe there's some setting the video uploader can alter to also make likes not publicly visible, or it's bugged in some way? Just seems implausible..
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ANN_Lynzee
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Glad you enjoyed it!
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BodaciousSpacePirate
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Yes, back when the pandemic started, and academic conferences had presenters prerecord their talks and upload them to YouTube (because we hadn't all figured out the whole Zoom thing yet), one conference I presented at asked us all to turn on that option. I think they didn't see likes as "professional"... maybe the people who made this video had a similar mindset? |
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AmpersandsUnited
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It's no real surprise why extremism is on the rise when modern politics seems to be more of a cult that always boils down to being told your side are the Good Guys and the other side are the Bad Guys and the source of everything wrong with the world. All it takes is for someone to get it in their head that it's up to them to be the "hero" who will defeat the "villain" by burning down buildings or hurting people.
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BonusStage
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I don't think that's cynicism, that's just being honest. Political parties want laws that will favor their side and will try to change laws that hurt them. That's just common sense. For what it's worth, virtually every other democratic country in the world has voter ID laws. It seems to be one of those things that's only controversial in America and America specifically has been dragging it's feet on implementing while the rest of the world has already done so: presumably because of partisan bickering. |
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